Casey and Bdale, thanks for the info!

RE " ... when another newbie ham asked a similar question"
:-) you!

Ok, I think I understand most everything.

I did some more poking around (Casey's thread and a little Googling)

Which got me to thinking about moving the altimeter from rocket to rocket.

I found a web page which seemed to suggest I could strip off (in my case)
~ 7"
of the outer casing and outer conduct of a coax cable to form the
equivalent of
a 7" wire antenna. Does that sound right?

Give that it is true (works reasonably well) I was thinking I could buy a
(say) 5ft
sma male to <anyConnector> coax cable cut off the <anyConnector> end,
drill a cable diameter hole in the "main" side of the altimeter bay thread
the cable
through leaving enough slack to easily connect the sma male connector to the
TeleMetrum. I would then epoxy the cable as it passes from the inside to the
outside of altimeter bay. Then I would cut the cable to (say) 8" long on
the outside
of the altimeter bay and strip 7" of the outer case and out conductor to
form the
wire antenna.

*Seems* like it should work. Thoughts?

This seems like it would be a good solution because I could install a
cable/antenna
in each rocket for the price of a sma male to xx cable (~$10)



On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Bdale Garbee <[email protected]> wrote:

> Peter Hackett <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > Can I just bend the whip antenna into a horse-shoe shape to get it to fit
> > into the altimeter bay? (I guess the really question is "Will this
> > significantly compromise the performance of the antenna?") And if it
> > is "a bad idea" what should I do?
>
> It's a bad idea for two reasons.  One is that it'll dramatically impact
> the radiation pattern, as you surmise.  The second is that doing that
> will put strain on the SMA connector's attachment to the board, which
> isn't a good idea.  I've had to repair boards that had the SMA damaged
> or sheared off because of loads put on the connector by such an antenna
> setup... sadly, one was one of my own boards that I stuffed in a 54mm
> airframe in a hurry at a launch a couple of years ago .. /o\
>
> > My first thought was to find a short SMA male to SMA female cable so that
> > the whip antenna can be straight. Is this "a good idea"? (necessary?,
> > etc)
>
> That's a better plan.
>
> > Next: in poking around the Altus Metrum and gag.com web sites while
> > researching about my altimeter question, I saw a link to a "SMA To BNC
> > adapter" on the Teledongle page.
> >
> > I bought an Arrow II Hand Held Portable Antenna 440-3 and in looking more
> > closely at the product description page, it looks like it has a BNC
> > connector.
> >
> > So it looks like I'll need to get either the SMA to BNC adapter or get a
> > coax cable with a male SMA connector on one end and a male BNC
> > connector on the other. Have I got that right?
>
> Yes.
>
> > If so, any recommendations?
>
> Ok.  The SMA-BNC adapter is the optimal way to attach a TeleDongle to an
> Arrow antenna.  It puts the receiver as close to the antenna feed point
> as possible, which minimizes the loss between the antenna and the
> receiver, giving you the best possible system noise temperature.
>
> On the rocket end, I really prefer the wire whip.  The only reason to
> use an SMA is if you're installing the board in something like an
> aluminum or carbon fiber airframe section (both are more or less opaque
> to RF signals) where you need to remote mount the antenna(s).
>
> Given that you have the SMA connector on the board, the two most
> plausible choices are to use a short SMA male to female cable to remote
> the whip, or to make up a simple wire whip with an SMA on it to use as
> an antenna.
>
> > Peter "I just got my ham radio technical license, so *clearly* I'm an
> > expert on all things RF" Hackett
>
> ;-)
>
> No worries, we all started somewhere!
>
> 73 - Bdale, KB0G
>
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