Hi Bdale,

Just to piggyback on this thread, is the USB connection the only way to
update firmware for the TeleMini v3.0? We're approaching our flight season
down here and I normally like to update device firmwares before the season
starts. This device is a bit of a concern though as I can't update the
firmware OTA via a TeleDongle but I can connect to and configure the unit
over the RF link.

I look forward to hearing from you soon (hopefully!).

Regards,

drew

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:12 PM Charles L Hakes <[email protected]>
wrote:

> These would probably work.  I have used the 5-pin version.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/JST-1-25mm-Pitch-Mini-3-Pin-Female-Connector-wire-15cm-Male-Vertical-Header-x-10/112284345603?hash=item1a24ab2503:g:Z8kAAOSwm8VUzafk
>
> Charlie
>
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Bryan Duke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> If anyone can find some 0.05” press fit headers, that’d be perfect.
> Smaller versions of these:
>
> https://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id=6552&osCsid=anp1cig2mlkv4j9083l85tpv41
>
> I heard Digikey stocks similar header pins, but I haven’t been able to
> find them yet.
>
> -Bryan
>
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Bdale Garbee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Chris Brown <[email protected]> writes:
>
> I would be interested in connecting with USB.  Can you please ask Keith to
> provide the details?
>
>
> Keith and I just talked this through.  Conceptually, it's easy.  In
> practice, it's really fiddly, because what you have to play with are 3
> small holes in the board on 0.050 inch centers.
>
> I'm going to CC our mailing list on this reply so this becomes more
> general knowledge.  The question for those seeing this for the first
> time, is how to use USB to configure a TeleMini v3.0 board?
>
> Leaving the micro USB connector off is one of the ways we made TeleMini
> fit in an 18mm tube.  But the main system on chip has USB available
> still, so when he laid out the board, Keith brought the required pins
> out, thinking it might be helpful in debugging or something, and our
> software should know what to do if it sees a TeleMini show up on USB.
>
> On one edge of the board (see attached photo), there are 6 holes in a
> row, one of which has a square pad, though you really have to squint at
> it to see which pad that is.  It's the third pad in from one end, and
> has 2 round holes on one side and 3 on the other.  The side with two is
> what you care about... they are the USB plus and minus data lines.  3
> connections will do it, GND / D+ / D-.
>
> To actually connect to these holes, the quickest hack is probably to
> take some existing USB A to mini or micro B cable, cut the B connector
> off, then carefully strip the outer jacket, strip the conductors, twist
> and tin their stranded leads, and just stick them into the appropriate
> holes.  Note that the usual color code for such cables is black for
> ground, red for 5V (avoid like the plague getting that near our
> boards!), green and white for the data lines.  On the cables we buy for
> TeleDongle, et al, green is D+ and white is D-, but sadly not everyone
> seems to get that right who sells cheap cables.  I've never seen anyone
> mess up the red and black wires.  Fortunately, if you get the data lines
> reversed, it won't hurt anything, it just won't work.
>
> It's going to be a bit of a challenge to keep everything making contact
> long enough to talk to the board.  You might consider finding some
> 50-mil pitch header pins to solder the wires to so you have a single
> thing you're putting in and out of the holes.  Or maybe some micro
> grabbers on each wire?  If you come up with some great solution, please
> let me know.
>
> In any case, once you have the USB port wired up, with a battery and
> power switch hooked up to the board it should show up as a USB device on
> your computer and you should be able to use altosui to configure it just
> like any of our other products.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Regards,
>
> Bdale
>
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