> > Now, the solution to copy the db files to a temp storage and then have
> > amanda back up from there was good - it works! There is a problem however,
> 
> Ouch. You'll need a lot of space which will be wasted while not holding
> the copied data files. I haven't seen part 1 but why not simply
> put all of the tablespaces into hot backup mode. Backup the data files
> and archivelogs normally and then backup the control files last or
> alternatively back the control files to trace?
> 
> [Fredrik Persson P (QRA)]  Well, at first I tried to do that. However, I ran into 
>difficulties. First, I'd like to put only the tablespace beeing backed up into backup 
>mode. It's the "oracle" users that does that. Sure, I could set the "backup" user up 
>with those previliges too. As you surely understand, having two users involved would 
>call for a sync function between those two users; the amount of work stopped me from 
>choosing this scheme.
> 
> Also, I wanted to tell amanda, in a smooth way, in what order to back up individual 
>files; the control file must be backed up after the tablespace files are backed up. I 
>still don't know if amanda lets me do that. John? 
> 
> I hope I make some kind of sense...?
> 
> In addition you should do a database export; You're more likely to have a
> developer drop a table by mistake than have a disk fail and it's much
> easier to get data back from an export.
> 
> [Fredrik Persson P (QRA)]  I'm not quite sure what database export is... I'm not the 
>db guy, I'm the backup guy. (Well, I'm more then that actually but I do backups...)
> 
> Now, if you want some redundancy *and* faster backups then you could put
> the database on a raid 1 mirror. When it comes to do the backup, break the
> mirror and mount the broken mirror somewhere. Backup the broken mirror
> rather than the live database. Once the backup is done, unmount and resync
> the mirror. Make use of all the wasted temp space. I don't think the linux
> md driver is up to this but some of the newer stuff might be.
> 
> [Fredrik Persson P (QRA)]  Nice trick. Not an option though, we're already RAIDed in 
>RAID3...
> 
> /Fredrik Persson 

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