OK thanks John that's explained a lot but how would you explain 
(messed up index file or no) how it worked with bin as the user 
under 2.4.1p1? Was there something changed between 2.4.1p1 
and 2.4.2p2 that would affect this? 

I don't want to appear to be nagging on but backups is one of the 
most important tasks if not the most important task a sys admin 
does so I'm quite keen to understand why things in amanda 
happen and work the way they do.

On 8 Apr 2002, at 11:52, John R. Jackson wrote:

> >The backups worked fine as bin when we were 
> >using amanda 2.4.1p1 ...
> 
> You just think it was.  This cannot ever have been working 100% properly.
> 
> >I think I maybe slipped up before when I said 
> >I'm using dump I should have said I'm using 
> >ufsdump.
> 
> Same difference.
> 
> >I know with dump(through reading this list) it 
> >can only do 'whole' volumes but is this the case 
> >with ufsdump? 
> 
> Pretty much.  Many dump programs will flat out refuse to do
> subdirectories.  Some (like ufsdump) switch over to doing a different
> kind of backup.  In the case of ufsdump, it no longer uses the raw disk
> device but goes through the normal file system, exactly like GNU tar.
> So it has the same issues of needing to be run as root.
> 
> But there's more.  I happen to know from helping someone else with a
> similar problem that the index files are not generated properly in this
> case, so amrecover is not going to work.
> 
> So the general rule still applies -- don't use dump on anything other
> than a complete file system.
> 
> >... it does not explain why this 
> >exact same setup works as root and worked as bin 
> >pre 2.4.2p2.
> 
> It explains why it works as root (ufsdump has the permissions it needs to
> wander around in the directory tree).  Something else had to have been
> going on for it to work (if it really was) earlier.  However, even if
> you got it to back everything up, amrecover is still not going to work
> (if that's a problem for you).
> 
> >David Flood
> 
> JJ



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