hi,

I have 2 questions:
1) what are you using as system to back up : "tar | dump"
  -tar :advantage: The tar is independent of the FileSystem and it could
work also on an active partition
  -dump: I can't see any advantage?

2)I'm using amanda with "dump" for 8 months and now every run we are
almost fulling a tape.
  -I change the disklist by replacing the nocomp-user with user-tar
  -I thought that in this way the transition will be smooth.

But I get this message from amanda


>   obsul35    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul39    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul27    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul37    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul29    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul17    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb13    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb22    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul28    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul31    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb14    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul40    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb18    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul30    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul33    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul42    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb35    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul13    /export/vaud5 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb16    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul38    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb39    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul7     /export/home/evol lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip 
>incremental dumps]
>   obssb23    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   atalante   /export/diskA lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul41    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul32    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskK0 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb38    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb7     /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb9     /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb25    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb15    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb2     /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb19    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb12    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb17    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb20    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb27    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb21    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb33    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb8     /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb5     /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb30    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb37    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb31    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb26    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb28    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb36    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul8     /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb3     /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb11    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb6     /export/diskA1 lev 3 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb24    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb10    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb29    /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb1     /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul9     /export/diskA1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb34    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb4     /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb32    /export/diskA1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/opt lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul7     /export/home/etu lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskN1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul13    /export/data lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskE lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskN0 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   hercule    /export/diskC1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul13    /export/home/vaud lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip 
>incremental dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskJ lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   hippomene  /export/diskC1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskK1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul13    /export/ia2 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul7     /export/diskD lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   atalante   /export/diskC1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   dejanire   /export/diskC1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskH lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskF lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskI lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskG lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obsul13    /export/ia1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskM lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   dejanire   /export/diskD lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskL lev 3 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   dejanire   /export/diskC2 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskD1 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssb5     /export/diskA2 lev 3 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskD2 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   hippomene  /export/diskC2 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskP lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   hercule    /export/diskC2 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskO lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskC2 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   atalante   /export/diskC2 lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   pegase     /export/diskC1 lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   dejanire   /export/diskB lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   hippomene  /export/diskA lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   dejanire   /export/diskA lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   hippomene  /export/diskB lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   hercule    /export/diskD lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   hercule    /export/diskF lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   hercule    /export/diskE lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssf2     /export/diskB lev 1 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   obssf1     /export/diskB lev 2 FAILED [dumps way too big, must skip incremental 
>dumps]
>   atalante   /export/diskD lev 5 STRANGE
>   atalante   /export/diskB lev 0 FAILED [no more holding disk space]



So I'm strongly suspecting that amanda is not stocking the information
of:
  -what was done before
  -and what it has to do.

So If you have already experienced this or If you just know how to make
this transition..
don't hesitate !!

Thanks in advance
Briner

 
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