Immediately after I first installed Amanda, I tested recovering.

I restored some files, and did a cmp -l between them and their counterparts
on the disk. 

It's a good thing I did too, because there were random byte differences that
did NOT affect the checksums or byte counts (ls -l) of these files. In other
words, had I NOT done a cmp -l, I would never have known that there was a
problem. I would have gone on, honky-dory, thinking I was getting good
backups.

one should always test his backups. I personally test them  using cmp, about
once every couple weeks. Only takes a minute.

Michael Martinez
System Administrator (Contractor)
Information Systems and Technology Management
CSREES - United States Department of Agriculture
(202) 720-6223


-----Original Message-----
From: R. Bradley Tilley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:35 PM
To: Stephen Hillier
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux and Sun Solaris dump / restore FAILS with amanda


Thanks for the tip, dump has it's problems, and I only use GNU-tar with 
amanda because of those problems. Anyway, why didn't you use amverify on the

tapes? Wouldn't it have prevented this disaster? 

On Wednesday 16 January 2002 14:11, you wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I don't normally post like this to any list, but recent experience (and
> the pain thereof) prompted me to try and help others avoid what happened
> to me.
>
> I've been using amanda for over a year in a production setting. It's
> worked fine for the once-in-a-while single or multiple file-recovery.
> But recently I had to try and do a full restore from a tape and it
> failed miserably. What's worse, after inspecting the archive of tapes
> that I have, not one of the dump images was complete and valid. Going
> back through the amanda log files and email'd reports, I never found
> errors for the tapes that gave me problems, but nontheless, the data on
> the tapes was useless. Every dump archive was incomplete.
>
> I encourage all amanda users to restrict themselves to using GNU-tar.
> While it doesn't save i-node information, it's very rare that you need
> this in a recovery scenario. All you really need is the file and meta
> data to do a recovery. With this in mind, and me still hurting from a
> disaster from which we could not recover, I changed our entire backup
> system to use GNU-tar instead of native dump utilities. Since then I 've
> done 3 complete restores and they were all successful.
>
> No one should have to lose data like that. I encourage all users to test
> their backups regularly. ESPECIALLY if you use native Linux/Sun dump
> utilties.
>
> I also found it interesting that even Linus Torvalds hates the dump
> utility and is lobbying to have it removed from all Linux distributions.
>
> For those who are curious, I manually inspected the useless dump
> archives on my tapes. I 'amrestore'd them to disk, and used an
> interactive restore to test their integrity. What I found is, while the
> data and listings index did exist on tape, the actual dump archive was
> always incomplete as if the backup ran out of spool space before it
> finished getting the dump archive from the server being backed up.
>
> Good Luck to all.
>
> Stephen.

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