Hi Jon,

   Thanks for the detailed response. It seems like specifically disabling
software compression has helped quite a bit.

Greg

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 3:49 AM, Jon LaBadie <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 06:47:57PM -0400, Greg Dickie wrote:
> > Hi Jon,
> >
> >   I did. I gave me this:
> > define tapetype IBM-LTO7 {
> >     comment "Created by amtapetype; compression disabled"
> >     length 5876531200 kbytes
> >     filemark 4964 kbytes
> >     speed 291436 kps
> >     blocksize 2048 kbytes
> > }
> >
> > The drive is SAS connected on a 6G HBA. I'm not sure what units kps is.
> >
>
> KiloBytes / Second
>
> So you are able to feed the drive from memory at 290 MB/s,
> close to its rates 300.
>
> Of course, during a backup without a holding disk, you may
> lose speed in reading from disk, transferring over the network,
> etc.
>
> LTO drives are designed to stream (run at a constant speed).
> Typically they can stream at two speeds, maximum (300MB/s
> in your case) and half-maximum.  The drives contain considerable
> memory to buffer the data feed which could vary in rate or be
> insufficient to maintain streaming.
>
> When the data feed is insufficient, the drive waits for the
> buffer to fill to some level, starts the tape, when up to
> speed writes from the buffer until it drops to some level.
> The drive stops writing, slows the tape to a stop, reverses
> the tape to before where it last wrote and stops.  When the
> buffer fills again, this cycle of start/write/stop/reverse
> repeats.  This undesireable behavior is called "shoe-shining".
> One result is very low write speeds.
>
> While a holding disk is not appropriate in all cases one
> purpose of a holding disk is to provide a consistant,
> high speed data source for feeding the tape drive.
>
> Jon
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Jon LaBadie <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 03:30:19PM -0400, Greg Dickie wrote:
> > > > Hi Alan,
> > > >
> > > >   Thanks for the response. It looks to me like taper is slow. I'm
> trying
> > > to
> > > > not use a holding disk, the NAS is 250TB and doesn't make sense to
> have
> > > > 250TB locally to cache it. It's connected by a 10G ethernet
> connection
> > > so I
> > > > "should" be able to stream pretty quickly from it. i did put a 1TB
> disk
> > > as
> > > > a part cache but that seemed to behave the same way.
> > > >
> > > Have you run amtapetype to see what speed
> > > you might expect as a maximum?
> > >
> > > Admins have often had great difficulty getting
> > > LTO drives to run at rated speed.
> > >
> > > jl
> > > --
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Greg Dickie
> > just a guy
> > 514-983-5400
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>
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> Jon H. LaBadie                 [email protected]
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