> On Feb 5, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Chris Hoogendyk <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/5/19 5:24 PM, Debra S Baddorf wrote:
>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Chris Hoogendyk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm running Amanda 3.4.5 on Ubuntu LTS Server 14.04 with an Overland 
>>> NeoSeries 48 slot library with two LTO7 drives.
>>> 
>>> I have near 100TB of external drives in various mdadm raid configurations 
>>> with LVM managing the storage and about 110 DLEs in my disklist.
>>> 
>>> One of the groups using the storage on this server has about 11TB of data 
>>> representing more than 4 years of work by a group of people. It would be a 
>>> real disaster to lose it, and they want an extra set of tapes as an archive.
>>> 
>>> It seems pretty clear that amvault will do this. However, I'm trying to 
>>> figure out the best way to configure it and get it done. If I set up a 
>>> storage and label some archive types to belong to that, then I can get 
>>> amvault to copy the latest fulls of a set of DLEs that correspond to their 
>>> work from the regular backups to the archive tapes. I don't see any 
>>> specific examples that show how to do that in detail (specifying particular 
>>> DLEs); but, I'm also concerned that it would tie up two tapes drives (from 
>>> and to), require me to load the appropriate tapes whenever it needed them, 
>>> and probably take long enough that it would get in the way of the regular 
>>> backups. I'm thinking it is likely to work like amrecover, where it tells 
>>> me what tapes it needs and then I do `amtape -o storage="research" daily 
>>> slot 7` (after looking at tapelist and changer status to figure out the 
>>> slot).
>>> 
>>> Is there some other way of configuring or doing this that is more 
>>> efficient? Or that would only tie up one drive? I haven't done this yet. 
>>> I'm just beginning to dig into it. Amanda 3.4.5 has amvault, but is it 
>>> missing anything that would be gained by upgrading to, say, 3.5.1?
>>> 
>>> Note that I do have holding disk space, but it is not excessively large in 
>>> terms of what I am normally backing up or want to do for this archive job. 
>>> It is made up of two 4TB SSDs. I could perhaps add some more holding disk 
>>> by carving it out of LVM, but that would probably be slower with respect to 
>>> the speed of the LTO7s.
>>> 
>>> Is there any good documentation online beyond the man pages for the amvault 
>>> and storage features? With examples?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris Hoogendyk
>> For my own archival storage,  I’ve found it easiest to create a second 
>> configuration.  No amvault.
>> Just a second cronjob that I run one weekend per month.  It ONLY does level 
>> 0’s,   and uses the same
>> DLE  that my “daily” job uses.   But a different amanda.conf   so that I can 
>> specify  no-incremental, no
>> re using tapes.   More detailed info,  if this option appeals to you.
>> 
>> It takes longer than a daily job, for me,  but uses the same tape drive.  
>> (Daily jobs don’t get to run
>> on the weekend when this occurs).
>> 
>> But I think you’ve already considered this option, and didn’t go that route.
>> Deb Baddorf
>> Fermilab
> 
> 
> I'll take that into consideration.
> 
> I was assuming the amvault would be more efficient and faster, since it 
> doesn't have to go through the tar pipe. Instead of tarring up a DLE, it 
> would simply dd it from an existing LTO7. I'm not sure if amanda would be 
> smart enough to construct a single dd from one LTO7 to another LTO7, but it 
> would seem that that would be rather fast.
> 
> Some time ago, I quit using gzip and just let the LTO7 do its own 
> compression. I lose some planning and information that way (can't tell how 
> well it actually compressed), but it seems to do well and is substantially 
> faster. My server doesn't get overloaded with gzip processes.
> 
> Also, I'm hoping I can configure an amvault archive, add tapes to it in the 
> future, and specify different DLEs that people want to archive, all without 
> changing the configuration, just marking tapes as don't re-use after I have 
> an archive on them.
> 
> ---------------
> 
> Chris Hoogendyk


I’m not sure there is a lot of usage of amvault out there.   I used it to copy 
from old tapes to a disk,
moved the disk to another machine,  and amvaulted again to copy from that disk 
to a new flavor tape drive.
In 2014.   *If*  it’s been worked on since then, it may have more options.

Looking at the only documentation I’m aware of,
https://wiki.zmanda.com/man/amvault.8.html
it seems like you could do 
   amvault    …..   -- latest-fulls   -- dry-run
so that it will only TELL you what it plans to copy.
The “…..”  is for the other options you’ll insert,  like --src-labelstr  label
or  --src-storage  storageName
and   --dest-storage  destStorageName
and of course   CONF   too.

Those should be double-dashes,  per the documentation.  My mac keeps changing 
them to long-dashes,
so ignore any long-dashes that I forgot to change back.

Deb Baddorf
Fermilab




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