Also Sprach David Simpson:

Hi,

That's interesting.

What is the motivation/main benefits of the Panasas system? (what else did you 
consider)

PanFS has multi-tier storage with metadata going to NVMe, IOPS-bound small 
files to SATA
SSD, and regular files to hard disk.  Also seems a bit easier to manage and 
less pricey
compared to GPFS/Spectrum Scale and WekaIO.


Yes inode trawling becoming a big issue.

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Am wondering if it might be possible to [sensibly] do full (e.g. monthly) to 
tape and incremental to disk (e.g. weekly).

David

You don't really need Amanda for that, since its major feature is the scheduler 
which
mixes incrementals and full backups to maximize efficient tape usage.


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FYI:

i. Three different backup sets, each around 100TB and growing.

ii. Fri evening - Mon morning weekend backups, rotated quarterly/every 12 weeks.
    Filesystem snapshots done hourly, rotated each day, and daily snapshots, 
rotated
    each week, in place of daily incremental backups.

iii.  The two biggest challenges are the explosion of the total volume of data
      and the increase in IOPS limited small file I/O, both mostly due to deep 
learning.
      We are currently using NAS servers with ZFS special devices to store 
small files
      on NVMe SSD drives, but are planning to migrate/consolidate to a Panasas 
system.


Also Sprach David Simpson:

Hi all,

Am interested to hear about your Amanda setup. Particularly if you are dealing 
with an HPC home file system/server, where both size and churn can be issues.

And/or scalable storage.

i) How big is your regular backup?
ii) How frequent?
iii) What challenges do you have/face?

I'm currently in the process of thinking about how a new backup regime will 
look, armed with a new 40 slot tape library and some limited disk storage too.

thanks
David



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