What are you talking about? > Let's not debate the defintion of a quarantine. To me, an IMAP Junk > folder is a quarantine. reviewing my previous post:
Ok...I don't recall debating this with you at all. So this shouldn't be a problem. > As a recipient of a lot of "rejection code", I can only tell you this: > stop it. If you think that fighting spam is as easy as rejecting mail, > then you are wrong. You are free to rject mail if you think it is spam, > but you are responsible of your own errors. As one my teachers used to > say: you can cheat, but don't get caught. No. You are receiving bounces. Bounces are not rejections. Rejections are sent to the mailer WHILE they are connected. If YOU are receiving a lot of rejections (NOT BOUNCES) this means YOU are sending a lot of things that others are being interpreted as spam or viruses. mouss wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> you deliver messages tagged as "undesirable" to a quarantine. This >>> may be >>> - a junk folder >>> - spam headers added to message (then MUAs are configured to use these >>> to eithe put the message in a special folder or to just allow user to >>> order messages so that they can focus on untagged messages first). >>> - tagged subject. variant of the above, but I don't like it. >>> - quarantine server (another pop/imap server). dbmail may be handy here. >>> - webmail >>> - web quarantine (mailzu for instance) >>> - amavisd-new quarantine >>> ... >>> >> >> I want a legit sender to know their message was quarantined. Quarantine >> makes it so the recipients know something was up (and retrieve if >> desired). > > Let's not debate the defintion of a quarantine. To me, an IMAP Junk > folder is a quarantine. reviewing my previous post: > > - junk folder: This is an IMAP folder that the user sees in his MUA. > - spam headers: the message is seen by the user. it is up to the user to > create rules in his MUA to flter these > - tagged subject: the message is seen by the user. it is up to the user > to create rules in his MUA to flter these > - webmail: the user has access to his webmail and thus to his quarantine > - webmail quarantine: the user has access to his quarantine > > so 5 out of 7 of the proposed mechanisms provide direct access by the > recipient. Choose for yourself... > > I myself use IMAP folders, and I check my Junk folder periodically. I > use .Junk, .Junk.Trash and .Junk.Error folders. The .Error is for false > positives, the .Trash is for confirmed spam, including False negatives. > server scripts use these for filter training. > >> Sending a rejection code lets the senders know something was >> up without sending bounces to innocent bystanders. >> > > As a recipient of a lot of "rejection code", I can only tell you this: > stop it. If you think that fighting spam is as easy as rejecting mail, > then you are wrong. You are free to rject mail if you think it is spam, > but you are responsible of your own errors. As one my teachers used to > say: you can cheat, but don't get caught. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ AMaViS-user mailing list AMaViS-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
