It starts with debug-sa, stays in the console window and puts does not put debug-sa info into mail.log but displays it at the console that called it.

On 1/29/18 2:33 PM, Dino Edwards wrote:

Please run amavisd in debug mode.

Stop the service

/etc/init.d/amavis stop

Then start in debug mode:

/etc/init.d/amavis debug

Open another session to your mail server and look at you /var/log/mail.log and you should see the following upon amavisd startup (or similar):

Jan 29 15:30:55.078 mail.domain.tld /usr/sbin/amavisd-new[8330]: initializing Mail::SpamAssassin (0)

Jan 29 15:30:55.078 mail.domain.tld /usr/sbin/amavisd-new[8330]: SpamAssassin debug facilities: info

Jan 29 15:30:55.712 mail.domain.tld /usr/sbin/amavisd-new[8330]: SA info: zoom: able to use 315/360 'body_0' compiled rules (87.5%)

Jan 29 15:30:56.454 mail.domain.tld /usr/sbin/amavisd-new[8330]: SpamAssassin loaded plugins: AskDNS, AutoLearnThreshold, Bayes, BodyEval, Check, DCC, DKIM, DNSEval, FreeMail, HTMLEval, HTTPSMismatch, Hashcash, HeaderEval, ImageInfo, MIMEEval, MIMEHeader, Pyzor, Razor2, RelayEval, ReplaceTags, Rule2XSBody, SPF, SpamCop, URIDNSBL, URIDetail, URIEval, VBounce, WLBLEval, WhiteListSubject

Jan 29 15:30:56.455 mail.domain.tld /usr/sbin/amavisd-new[8330]: SpamControl: init_pre_fork on SpamAssassin done

Jan 29 15:30:56.455 mail.domain.tld /usr/sbin/amavisd-new[8330]: extra modules loaded after daemonizing/chrooting: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/NetAddr/IP/InetBase/inet_n2dx.al, Mail/SpamAssassin/CompiledRegexps/body_0.pm, Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/FreeMail.pm, Net/DNS/RR/OPT.pm

*From:*Computer Bob [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Monday, January 29, 2018 3:24 PM
*To:* Dino Edwards <[email protected]>; [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: Scoring questions

Changes made, amavis restarted.
I have seen the following on all mails, I just was too lazy to include it because I had to blank the server name...skuza..

X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at M1-2.myorganization.org

On 1/29/18 2:15 PM, Dino Edwards wrote:

    Please try

    $sa_tag_level_deflt = undef;

    In

    /etc/amavis/conf.d/50-user

    Do you see the X-Virus-Scanned header in the emails that amavisd
    processes?

    *From:*amavis-users
    [mailto:[email protected]]
    *On Behalf Of *Computer Bob
    *Sent:* Monday, January 29, 2018 2:40 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: Scoring questions

    I also agree that at this point auto learn should be off and
    cleared as I have done.
    But I still continue to get garbage mails through showing headers
    such as:

    X-Spam-Flag: NO

    X-Spam-Score: 0.61

    X-Spam-Level:

    X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.61 tagged_above=-9999 required=5

             tests=[HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST=0.001, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_04=0.61,

             HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001,

             T_REMOTE_IMAGE=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01]

             autolearn=no autolearn_force=no

    And as I said, when I run them through SA at the command line they
    seem to score correctly.
    The scores being given in the headers can't be correct as they all
    are similarly low and wrong.
    An interesting note is that if I try and forward one of these
    received, they get flagged and sent to spam.
    Without knowing the intricacies of the amavis procedural steps, or
    were to start, it is not possible for me to troubleshoot.


    On 1/29/18 1:20 PM, Dino Edwards wrote:

        I disagree it's bad advice considering it's autolearn that seems to be 
creating at least some of the problems he's experiencing.

        However, I do agree, the AutoLearn Threshold should definitely be set 
IF you are going to be using autolearn but in my experience auto-learn creates 
more problems than it solves. I believe that only humans should be be used for 
training the bayes database. Auto-learning has the tendency to exaggerate 
issues over time.

        Keep it simple for now and train your bayes database and after you've 
trained it and it's scoring well, then consider using autolearn.

        -----Original Message-----

        From: amavis-users 
[mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Benny Pedersen

        Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 1:06 PM

        To:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

        Subject: Re: Re: Scoring questions

        Computer Bob skrev den 2018-01-29 18:57:

            I assume you mean bayes_auto_learn in local.cf. I set it to 0 from 1

            and restarted.

        yes its just bad advise, but setting this is what disables autolearn

        i suggest see autolearnthreashold instaed

        
https://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.3.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Plugin_AutoLearnThreshold.html

        bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -5

        bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 7.5

        let the spammers win now :)


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