Hi,

Thanks for the pointers, my comments below.

# netstat -tulpn | grep ":10024"
when this error occurs is most likely revealing that amavis is running
on this port. But still knowing is knowing, guessing is guessing.

You're right, I will check that next time. However, as I usually discover the issue hours later, I guess that whoever that is blocking 10024 will have terminated by then.

Actually systemd is running a generator to interpret /etc/init.d/* and
dynamically creates .service files, which are executed. The generator
is somewhere at /lib/systemd/system-generators/systemd-sysv-generator
and it's results should be at /run/systemd/generator.late/* .

D'oh, of course.
There is quite a lot going on in /run/systemd/generator.late/, here are the amavis files
ls -l /run/systemd/generator.late/amavis*
/run/systemd/generator.late/amavisd-new.service -> amavis.service
/run/systemd/generator.late/amavisd-snmp-subagent.service
/run/systemd/generator.late/amavis-mc.service
/run/systemd/generator.late/amavis.service
/run/systemd/generator.late/amavis-snmp-subagent.service -> amavisd-snmp-subagent.service

amavis.service is the one launching /etc/init.d/amavisd-new, but the amavisd-new.service -> amavis.service softlink is VERY suspicious.
This is confirmed by :
systemctl list-unit-files | grep amavis
amavis-mc.service generated amavis-snmp-subagent.service generated amavis.service generated amavisd-new.service generated amavisd-snmp-subagent.service generated

So it would appear I have 2 amavis instances running, no wonder they eventually fight over the port. (the same goes for the snmp agent...) I'll try to disable one of them (time to fully understand how this auto-generation is exactly done, and why this softlink is created...), and report here, but probably in one month or two, given the rarity of the bug..

Btw. you have an interesting configuration, as I thought amavisd is
it's own spamd daemon (using perl API) and therefore process spamd
isn't needed at all.

Indeed, now that you mention it, I thought that the only service launched should have been amavis (this is, after all, the only one speaking to postfix), with spamassassin being called/launched as needed. The original configuration was done on Debian 6, and migration might have gone awry (I'm looking at you, systemd). If aforementioned services cleanup does not work, I guess I'll redo my configuration from scratch.

Thanks for the help !

N

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