Ambari uses the standard bigtop rpm structure. 

If you are looking for the jars, you can do the following to get the exact 
locations

rpm -qa | grep hadoop
rpm -ql hadoop

For starting HDFS manually, you could take a look at either the apache hadoop 
docs or the link below from Hortonworks:

http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r1.0.3/cluster_setup.html

http://docs.hortonworks.com/CURRENT/index.htm#Deploying_Hortonworks_Data_Platform/Installing_Manually/rpminstall/rpm_validate/rpm_validate.htm
( you would skip the format step obviously :) )


Note: once you start doing manual operations, the UI will be in an inconsistent 
with respect to reality and there may be unforseen problems if you have to fall 
back to using the UI.

-- Hitesh


On Oct 3, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Artem Ervits wrote:

> Is there a way to start hdfs manually, instead of using the Web UI? Also, 
> where does Ambari install the Hadoop binaries?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hitesh Shah [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 4:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Puppet kick failed after migrating virtual appliance
> 
> Kick failed usually implies that the agent is not running on the host in 
> question or that the master cannot communicate with the agent.
> 
> -- Hitesh 
> 
> On Oct 3, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Artem Ervits wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I installed a fully functional Ambari server and client with HDFS, M/R, 
>> Ganglia and Nagios in two virtual machines. When I exported the two 
>> appliances and imported them on another virtual host to take advantage of 
>> more ram, I witnessed that Ganglia and Nagios services start but HDFS 
>> wouldn't start. I get a message that
>> 
>> {
>>    "2": {
>>        "nodeReport": [],
>>        "nodeLogs": []
>>    },
>>    "3": {
>>        "nodeReport": {
>>            "PUPPET_KICK_FAILED": [
>>                "amaster.local"
>>            ],
>>            "PUPPET_OPERATION_FAILED": [],
>>            "PUPPET_OPERATION_TIMEDOUT": [],
>>            "PUPPET_OPERATION_SUCCEEDED": []
>>        },
>>        "nodeLogs": []
>>    },
>>    "7": {
>>        "nodeReport": [],
>>        "nodeLogs": []
>>    },
>>    "9": {
>>        "nodeReport": [],
>>        "nodeLogs": []
>>    }
>> }
>> 
>> 
>> Amaster.local has the following services: Secondary NameNode, JobTracker, 
>> Ambari Server, HDFS Client, MapReduce Client.
>> Aclient01.local has the following services: NameNode, Ganglia Collector, 
>> Nagios Server
>> 
>> Is there a way to start hdfs manually, instead of using the Web UI? Also, 
>> where does Ambari install the Hadoop binaries?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Artem Ervits
>> Data Analyst
>> New York Presbyterian Hospital
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