> On Mar 29, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Brian Goetz <brian.go...@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm less OK with saying "let's do immutable records now, and then figure out 
> the mutability story."

Yes, agreed. We should have a mutability story out of the gate, and I buy that 
"sorry, you're out of luck" is not the right story.

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