> On Nov 10, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Chris Hegarty <chris.hega...@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> My issue is with how the VM determines whether a field is trusted or not. The 
> VM trusts fields in (among other types) “record” classes. So what is a record 
> class to the VM?   (that is the question that I am trying to resolve) - the 
> answer is not in the JVMS ( which is fine ).

Suggestion: the VM shouldn't bother to provide any definition for "record 
class". That's up to Java language compilers and reflection (which should be in 
agreement).

Instead, can't we say the VM trusts fields in classes that have a Record 
attribute? Who cares whether those classes are "real" records or not? (I may be 
missing something because I don't fully understand the concept of "trusted 
final field", but it seems to me like HotSpot has a lot of freedom to decide to 
trust or not trust whatever fields it wants.)

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