JODI:     "... Media art is always on the surface. You have to get people
very quickly. You need to give them a karate punch in the neck as soon as
possible. And then - of course - they don't get to the details, and the site
will just sit there for the next five years or ten years, or maybe 100
years. And maybe their children will have the time to explore the details...
(laughs)"

from interview with Tilman Baumg�rtel, 06.10.1997


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