From: "sixpm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Re: <ambit> Topic of the month: Remote return of the sub jecked
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:39:32 -0000

qualities of the medium:

plastic,
wirey (may stay in the position you've placed it in, may subsequently be
bent by interaction),
a-gravitational (no need for symbols developed to withstand gravity eg, text
for paper, straight lines for support),
plenty of light,
frequency/colour,
reiteration,
sound oh the sound,
movement,
the body of the user in the same position as that of the maker,
self similarity. subject is subject is subject is subject...we is one in the
machine

it could be the perfect tool for rhetoric but it could be a brave new world.
the medium not for representation, ol' boot, but a host for the self.
construct an enviroment that echoes internal structures, dwell in
electronica. experience a realm of non-representational rhetorical objects.
useful for post-4d mind patterns. complex topologies to bind up the soul.

the medium is electic and sparky but soft like a marrow.





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From: "O'Neil, Shaleph" <S.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: Re: <ambit> Topic of the month: Remote


 Unlimited semiosis, occurs all the time everyday, everytime we have a
 thought, experience something or try to understand something - this is
 basically the semioticians view of the interlinked contents of a mind
 prehaps best considered in the notion of a train of thought.

 In Manovich's examples of transcoding i think he is approaching what
 Baudrillard called the 3rd level of simulation, where we have copy upon
 perfect copy of images and no discernable original. I think digital media
 perhaps exemplifies this notion even more than obvious examples of
 commodity, and is in a sense a momentary concretization of this semiotic
 > process.

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