Hi Lijo,

On 8/14/2025 6:18 PM, Sundararaju, Sathishkumar wrote:

On 8/14/2025 5:33 PM, Lazar, Lijo wrote:
[Public]

There is no need for nested lock. It only needs to follow the order
         set instance power_state
         set profile (this takes a global lock and hence instance power state will be visible to whichever thread that gets the work profile lock).

You are seeing nested lock just because I added the code just after power state setting.

Pasting your code from the file for ref :

@@ -464,32 +509,14 @@ void amdgpu_vcn_ring_begin_use(struct amdgpu_ring *ring)

-pg_lock:

     mutex_lock(&vcn_inst->vcn_pg_lock);
     vcn_inst->set_pg_state(vcn_inst, AMD_PG_STATE_UNGATE);

+   amdgpu_vcn_get_profile(adev);

vcn_pg_lock isn't  released here yet right ? And in-case you intend to only order the locks, then still there is an un-necessary OFF followed by ON, but yes that is acceptable,

May be you want to move that vcn_pg_lock after amdgpu_vcn_get_profile to protect concurrent dpg_state access in begin_use.

The concern is, this patch access power_state that is protected by some other mutex lock hoping it reflects right values also when holding powerprofile_lock.

Thanks for taking time to explain this personally to me , I get it now, your patch should work fine. This above is a wrong hypothetical issue I imagined.

amdgpu_vcn_get_profile() and amdgpu_vcn_put_profile can be void return type.

And please remove the typo to avoid nested locking.

With above changes, your patch is  :-

Reviewed-by: Sathishkumar S <sathishkumar.sundarar...@amd.com>

And there is other thread which also has Alex's (v3) fix for this issue, leave it to Alex/yourself and other review participants to decide for the best approach, I am inclined with your approach, as it is centered around pg_state.


Regards,

Sathish


Or

Have shared a patch with global workload_profile_mutex that simplifies this handling, and renamed pg_lock -> dpg_lock  and used

that only for dpg_state changes per instance.

Regards,

Sathish


Thanks,
Lijo

-----Original Message-----
From: Sundararaju, Sathishkumar <sathishkumar.sundarar...@amd.com>
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To: Lazar, Lijo <lijo.la...@amd.com>; Alex Deucher <alexdeuc...@gmail.com> Cc: Wu, David <david....@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander <alexander.deuc...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/amdgpu/vcn: fix video profile race condition (v3)


On 8/14/2025 3:16 PM, Lazar, Lijo wrote:
[Public]

I see your point now. Attached should work, I guess. Is the concern more about having to take the lock for every begin?
This is closer,  but the thing is, IMO we shouldn't have to use 2 locks and go into nested locking, we can do with just one global lock.

Power_state of each instance, and global workload_profile_active are inter-related, they need to be guarded together,

nested could work , but why nested if single lock is enough ? nested complicates it.

Regards,

Sathish

Thanks,
Lijo

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Lazar, Lijo
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2025 2:55 PM
To: Sundararaju, Sathishkumar <sathishkumar.sundarar...@amd.com>; Alex
Deucher <alexdeuc...@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH] drm/amdgpu/vcn: fix video profile race condition
(v3)

[Public]

That is not required I think. The power profile is set by an instance *after* setting itself to power on. Also, it's switched back after changing its power state to off.  If idle worker is run by another instance, it won't be seeing the inst0 as power gated and won't change power profile.

Thanks,
Lijo
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From: Sundararaju, Sathishkumar <sathishkumar.sundarar...@amd.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2025 2:41 PM
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<alexdeuc...@gmail.com>
Cc: Wu, David <david....@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander
<alexander.deuc...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/amdgpu/vcn: fix video profile race condition
(v3)

Hi Lijo,

On 8/14/2025 2:11 PM, Lazar, Lijo wrote:
[Public]

We already have a per instance power state that can be tracked. What about something like attached?
This also has concurrent access of the power state ,
vcn.inst[i].cur_state is not protected by workload_profile_mutex

every where, it can still change while you are holding workload_profile_mutex and checking it.

Regards,

Sathish

Thanks,
Lijo
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Sundararaju, Sathishkumar
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2025 4:43 AM
To: Alex Deucher <alexdeuc...@gmail.com>
Cc: Wu, David <david....@amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander
<alexander.deuc...@amd.com>; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/amdgpu/vcn: fix video profile race condition
(v3)


On 8/14/2025 3:38 AM, Alex Deucher wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 5:1 PM Sundararaju, Sathishkumar
<sathishkumar.sundarar...@amd.com> wrote:
On 8/14/2025 2:33 AM, Alex Deucher wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 4:58 PM Sundararaju, Sathishkumar
<sathishkumar.sundarar...@amd.com> wrote:
On 8/14/2025 1:35 AM, Alex Deucher wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 2:23 PM Sundararaju, Sathishkumar
<sathishkumar.sundarar...@amd.com> wrote:
Hi Alex, Hi David,

I see David's concern but his suggestion yet wont solve the
problem, neither the current form , reason :-

The emitted fence count and total submission count are fast
transients which frequently become 0 in between video decodes
(between jobs) even with the atomics and locks there can be a
switch of video power profile, in the current form of patch
that window is minimized, but still can happen if stress
tested. But power state of any instance becoming zero
Can you explain how this can happen?  I'm not seeing it.
Consider this situation, inst0 and inst1 actively decoding, inst0
decode completes, delayed idle work starts.
inst0 idle handler can read 0 total fences and 0 total submission
count, even if inst1 is actively decoding, that's between the jobs,
       - as begin_use increaments vcn.total_submission_cnt and
end_use decreaments vcn.total_submission_cnt that can be 0.
       - if outstanding fences are cleared and no new emitted
fence, between jobs , can be 0.
       - both of the above conditions do not mean video decode is
complete on inst1, it is actively decoding.
How can there be active decoding without an outstanding fence?  In
that case, total_fences (fences from both instances) would be non-0.
I mean on inst1 the job scheduled is already complete, so 0
outstanding fences, newer job is yet to be scheduled

and commited to ring (inst1) , this doesn't mean decode has stopped
on
inst1 right (I am saying if timing of inst0 idle work coincides
with this),

Or am I wrong in assuming this ? Can't this ever happen ? Please
correct my understanding here.
The flow looks like:

begin_use(inst)
emit_fence(inst)
end_use(inst)

...later
fence signals
...later
work handler

In begin_use we increment the global and per instance submission.
This protects the power gating and profile until end_use. In end
use we decrement the submissions because we don't need to protect
anything any more as we have the fence that was submitted via the
ring.  That fence won't signal until the job is complete.
Is a next begin_use always guaranteed to be run before current job fence signals ?

if not then both total submission and total fence are zero , example
delayed job/packet submissions

from user space, or next job schedule happens after current job fence signals.

if this is never possible then (v3) is perfect.

Regards,

Sathish

For power gating, we
only care about the submission count and fences for that instance,
for the profile, we care about submission count and fences all instances.
Once the fences have signalled, the outstanding fences will be 0 and
there won't be any active work.

Alex

Regards,

Sathish

Alex

Whereas if instances are powered off we are sure idle time is
past and it is powered off, no possible way of active video
decode, when all instances are off we can safely assume no active
decode and global lock protects it against new begin_use on any instance.
But the only distant concern is global common locks w.r.t perf,
but we are already having a global workprofile mutex , so there
shouldn't be any drop in perf, with just one single global lock
for all instances.

Just sending out a patch with this fix, will leave it to you to
decide the right method. If you think outstanding total fences
can never be 0 during decode, then your previous version (v3)
itself is good, there is no real benefit of splitting the handlers as such.

Regards,
Sathish
If it is possible, maybe it would be easier to just split the
profile and powergating into separate handlers. The profile one
would be global and the powergating one would be per instance.
See the attached patches.

Alex

can be a sure shot indication of break in a video decode, the
mistake in my patch was using per instance mutex, I should have
used a common global mutex, then that covers the situation David is trying to bring out.

Using one global vcn.pg_lock for idle and begin_use and using
flags to track power state could help us totally avoid this situation.

Regards,

Sathish

On 8/13/2025 11:46 PM, Wu, David wrote:
On 8/13/2025 12:51 PM, Alex Deucher wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 12:39 PM Wu, David <david...@amd.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,

The addition of  total_submission_cnt should work - in that
it is unlikely to have a context switch right after the begin_use().
The suggestion of moving it inside the lock (which I prefer
in case someone adds more before the lock and not reviewed
thoroughly)
         - up to you to decide.

Reviewed-by: David (Ming Qiang) Wu <david....@amd.com>

Thanks,
David
On 8/13/2025 9:45 AM, Alex Deucher wrote:
If there are multiple instances of the VCN running, we may
end up switching the video profile while another instance
is active because we only take into account the current
instance's submissions.  Look at all outstanding fences for
the video profile.

v2: drop early exit in begin_use()
v3: handle possible race between begin_use() work handler

Fixes: 3b669df92c85 ("drm/amdgpu/vcn: adjust workload
profile
handling")
Reviewed-by: Sathishkumar S
<sathishkumar.sundarar...@amd.com> (v1)
Signed-off-by: Alex Deucher <alexander.deuc...@amd.com>
---
drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vcn.c | 40
++++++++++++-------------
drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vcn.h |  1 +
         2 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vcn.c
b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vcn.c
index 9a76e11d1c184..593c1ddf8819b 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vcn.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vcn.c
@@ -415,19 +415,25 @@ static void
amdgpu_vcn_idle_work_handler(struct work_struct *work)
             struct amdgpu_vcn_inst *vcn_inst =
                     container_of(work, struct
amdgpu_vcn_inst, idle_work.work);
             struct amdgpu_device *adev = vcn_inst->adev;
-     unsigned int fences = 0, fence[AMDGPU_MAX_VCN_INSTANCES] = {0};
-     unsigned int i = vcn_inst->inst, j;
+     unsigned int total_fences = 0,
fence[AMDGPU_MAX_VCN_INSTANCES] = {0};
+     unsigned int i, j;
             int r = 0;

-     if (adev->vcn.harvest_config & (1 << i))
+     if (adev->vcn.harvest_config & (1 << vcn_inst->inst))
                     return;

-     for (j = 0; j < adev->vcn.inst[i].num_enc_rings; ++j)
-             fence[i] +=
amdgpu_fence_count_emitted(&vcn_inst->ring_enc[j]);
+     for (i = 0; i < adev->vcn.num_vcn_inst; ++i) {
+             struct amdgpu_vcn_inst *v =
+ &adev->vcn.inst[i];
+
+             for (j = 0; j < v->num_enc_rings; ++j)
+                     fence[i] +=
amdgpu_fence_count_emitted(&v->ring_enc[j]);
+             fence[i] += amdgpu_fence_count_emitted(&v->ring_dec);
+             total_fences += fence[i];
+     }

             /* Only set DPG pause for VCN3 or below, VCN4
and above will be handled by FW */
             if (adev->pg_flags & AMD_PG_SUPPORT_VCN_DPG &&
- !adev->vcn.inst[i].using_unified_queue) {
+ !vcn_inst->using_unified_queue) {
                     struct dpg_pause_state new_state;

                     if (fence[i] || @@ -436,18 +442,18 @@
static void amdgpu_vcn_idle_work_handler(struct work_struct
*work)
                     else
new_state.fw_based =
VCN_DPG_STATE__UNPAUSE;

- adev->vcn.inst[i].pause_dpg_mode(vcn_inst, &new_state);
+ vcn_inst->pause_dpg_mode(vcn_inst,
+ &new_state);
             }

-     fence[i] += amdgpu_fence_count_emitted(&vcn_inst->ring_dec);
-     fences += fence[i];
-
-     if (!fences && !atomic_read(&vcn_inst->total_submission_cnt)) {
+     if (!fence[vcn_inst->inst] &&
!atomic_read(&vcn_inst->total_submission_cnt)) {
+             /* This is specific to this instance */
mutex_lock(&vcn_inst->vcn_pg_lock);
vcn_inst->set_pg_state(vcn_inst, AMD_PG_STATE_GATE);
mutex_unlock(&vcn_inst->vcn_pg_lock);
mutex_lock(&adev->vcn.workload_profile_mutex);
-             if (adev->vcn.workload_profile_active) {
+             /* This is global and depends on all VCN instances */
+             if (adev->vcn.workload_profile_active &&
!total_fences &&
+ !atomic_read(&adev->vcn.total_submission_cnt)) {
                             r =
amdgpu_dpm_switch_power_profile(adev,
PP_SMC_POWER_PROFILE_VIDEO, false);
                             if (r) @@ -467,16 +473,10 @@
void amdgpu_vcn_ring_begin_use(struct amdgpu_ring *ring)
             int r = 0;

atomic_inc(&vcn_inst->total_submission_cnt);
+ atomic_inc(&adev->vcn.total_submission_cnt);
move this addition down inside the mutex lock
cancel_delayed_work_sync(&vcn_inst->idle_work);

-     /* We can safely return early here because we've cancelled the -      * the delayed work so there is no one else to set it to false
-      * and we don't care if someone else sets it to true.
-      */
-     if (adev->vcn.workload_profile_active)
-             goto pg_lock;
-
mutex_lock(&adev->vcn.workload_profile_mutex);
move to here:
atomic_inc(&adev->vcn.total_submission_cnt);
I think this should work for multiple instances.
Why does this need to be protected by the mutex?
hmm.. OK - no need and it is actually better before the mutex.
David
Alex

David
             if (!adev->vcn.workload_profile_active) {
                     r =
amdgpu_dpm_switch_power_profile(adev,
PP_SMC_POWER_PROFILE_VIDEO, @@ -487,7 +487,6 @@ void
amdgpu_vcn_ring_begin_use(struct amdgpu_ring *ring)
             }
mutex_unlock(&adev->vcn.workload_profile_mutex);

-pg_lock:
mutex_lock(&vcn_inst->vcn_pg_lock);
vcn_inst->set_pg_state(vcn_inst,
AMD_PG_STATE_UNGATE);

@@ -528,6 +527,7 @@ void amdgpu_vcn_ring_end_use(struct
amdgpu_ring
*ring)
atomic_dec(&ring->adev->vcn.inst[ring->me].dpg_enc_submissi
o
n
_cnt);

atomic_dec(&ring->adev->vcn.inst[ring->me].total_submission
_
c
nt);
+ atomic_dec(&ring->adev->vcn.total_submission_cnt);

schedule_delayed_work(&ring->adev->vcn.inst[ring->me].idle_work,
VCN_IDLE_TIMEOUT); diff
--git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vcn.h
b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vcn.h
index b3fb1d0e43fc9..febc3ce8641ff 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vcn.h
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vcn.h
@@ -352,6 +352,7 @@ struct amdgpu_vcn {

             uint16_t inst_mask;
             uint8_t num_inst_per_aid;
+     atomic_t total_submission_cnt;

             /* IP reg dump */
             uint32_t *ip_dump;

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