On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 15:58:51 +0200,
Alex Deucher wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:16 AM, Qu, Jim <jim...@amd.com> wrote:
> > Hi Lukas,
> >
> > Thanks to your explanation, and see comments in line.
> >
> >
> > Do you need to runtime resume the HDA controller even if user space isn't
> > streaming audio?  Why, and in which situation exactly?
> >
> > Jim: OEM system uses pactl to queiry audio card and audio output sink, 
> > since the audio has power down by runtime pm, so the audio card and output 
> > sink are all unavailable. they could not select the available HDMI audio 
> > for audio playing.
> >
> > You're saying above that the HDA controller isn't runtime resumed on
> > hotplug of a display.  Is that necessary to retrieve ELD or something?
> > I'm not sure if there's code in the HDA driver to acquire a runtime PM
> > ref on HPD, but maybe it's necessary.  Or maybe the code is there but
> > somehow no HPD interrupt is received by the HDA driver?
> >
> > Jim: So far, I do not find any code about audio response HPD in kernel. the 
> > HPD interrupt will sent to user mode via uevent, not sure whether audio 
> > user mode driver can receive the event or not.
> 
> On the gfx side at least, we can get a hotplug event via ACPI
> (depending on the OEM design) if displays are attached/detached while
> the dGPU is powered down.  I suppose the gfx driver could call into
> the audio driver during one of those events.  On the gfx side at least
> we just generate the gfx hotplug event and let userspace deal with it.

IMO, a more proper way would be to have the direct communication
between the graphics driver and the audio driver like i915 driver
does.  Then the audio driver can get plug/unplug event at more
accurate timing without races.

(Though, it will cause another mess wrt the weak module dependency,
 but it's another story :)


thanks,

Takashi


> 
> Alex
> 
> >
> > Thanks
> > JimQu
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > 发件人: Lukas Wunner <lu...@wunner.de>
> > 发送时间: 2018年7月9日 17:27
> > 收件人: Qu, Jim
> > 抄送: alsa-de...@alsa-project.org; dri-de...@lists.freedesktop.org; Deucher, 
> > Alexander; amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
> > 主题: Re: [PATCH] vgaswitchroo: set audio client id according to bound gpu 
> > client id
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 08:52:33AM +0000, Qu, Jim wrote:
> >> Now, I found the audio device will auto suspend even if the gpu is active,
> >> and if I plug in a HDMI device it also do not resume back.
> >>
> >> 1. Did you encounter similar issue before?
> >> 2. audio will auto suspend as default at beginning of boot, is it expect
> >> behaviour?
> >
> > Yes, that's expected.  Once you start streaming audio to attached displays,
> > user space opens the codec device and this causes the HDA controller to
> > runtime resume.  If the discrete GPU is suspended at that moment, it will
> > be powered on and kept powered on as long as user space is streaming audio.
> >
> > Do you need to runtime resume the HDA controller even if user space isn't
> > streaming audio?  Why, and in which situation exactly?
> >
> > You're saying above that the HDA controller isn't runtime resumed on
> > hotplug of a display.  Is that necessary to retrieve ELD or something?
> > I'm not sure if there's code in the HDA driver to acquire a runtime PM
> > ref on HPD, but maybe it's necessary.  Or maybe the code is there but
> > somehow no HPD interrupt is received by the HDA driver?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lukas
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