On 04/01 11:30, Erich Wälde wrote: > Hello Meino, > > tu...@posteo.de writes: > > > Hi, > > > > Before I install a lot of software on my GENTOO-Linux only > > to recognize I had done the wrong assumptions I would like > > ask, whether I have the needed prerequisites for AmForth: > > > > I am running a 64bit-GENTOO Linux and I am quite familiar with > > Linux. > > I want to run AmForth on a Arduino Pro Mini Atmega328p/3.3V. > > With my USB-to-serial adapter I flash my ProMinis with the > > Arduino-IDE successfully. > > Please note: "programming" an Arduino uses a bootloader flashed > to the arduino controller before it is shipped. This bootloader > is unfortunately not compatible with amforth. To flash amforth > to your arduino you *must* have a proper programmer. There are > many different ones available. I have successfully used several > including this one: mySmartUSB light by www.myAVR.de. With this > programmer you are able to reinstall the arduino bootloader as > well. > > > I am a AmForth-newbie. > > I am a Wine-newbie. > > > > Do I need to install the 32bit-version or the 64bit-version of > > wine? > > AvrAssembler2 ist a 32 bit executable. Looking at my Debian I > have installed > . wine > . wine-binfmt > . wine32:i386 > . wine32-preloader:i386 > . wine64 > in other words, the multiarch system is used to enable :i386 > (==32 bit) packages, wine and wine32:i386 are installed. Then > this should work. Be sure to search for corresponding > instructions on gentoo. > > > Do I need to install wine at all -- can I use a different software > > to assemble things (I would prefer this way even it would imply more > > work) ? > > There is "avra" at http://avra.sourceforge.net. A long time ago > I was able to assemble amforth with avra as well (amforth > versions 4.2 .. 4.6 maybe). However: I had to patch avra to make > it output the correct hex file for my beloved 644p. And some of > the assembly directives did not work (.overlay may be, but not > sure). Very unfortunately avra seems to be abandoned. So I > personally have given in to use wine+AvrAssembler2. > > It would, of course, be very exciting, if someone would pick up > the leftovers of avra. I would definitely help by using it. And > I'm sure, I'm not the only one waiting for a motivated developer > to move on. As mentioned, I have looked at the sources. It looks > doable, but I have dedicated my time to other things. > > Maybe interesting to note: since wine+AvrAssembler2 is working, > it gives a prospective maintainer of avra a possibility to > check, whatever changes were made do not break the output. In > the end avra should be able to produce identical output. > > Another route could be to shape up naken_asm. Note that the > msp430 Version of amforth ist build using naken_asm > (http://www.mikekohn.net/micro/naken_asm.php) > I'm not in a position to judge, whether this is a possible > route. > > If I remember correctly, then gcc-as is not a possible route, > since the format of the assembly used by gcc-avr is different > from that used to feed AvrAssember2. > > > > > Thank you very much in advance for any help! > > Have a nice weekend! > > Cheers > > Meino > > > Hope, this helps, and welcome to amforth! > > Another source of information is the .pdf Version of the "Vierte > Dimension", a german (and somewhat english) publication by the > "Forth Gesellschaft e.V.", found at > http://www.forth-ev.de/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=2 > > Also, Jean Claude Wippler of jeelabs.org fame is experimenting > with Forth. > > Have the appropriate amount of fun! > > Cheers, > Erich > > -- > The purpose of computing is insight --- not numbers > R. Hamming > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ > Amforth-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >
Hi, thanks a lot for the huge amount of informations! But... If I have to install wine first, then a windows executable...sorry, no thank you. With Gentoo everything has to be compiled first and I have had some not so successful experiences previously with wine (a vendor offers a firmware-update-flashing tool for windows only). Cheers Meino ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ Amforth-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel
