>> questions, that I cannot answer. I would encourage a split/fork >> and call the thing AmForth-riscv and NOT look left or right to >> other targets. But that is just my humble opinion.
I will be leaning on AmForth-ML (a version that supports Machine Learning) minimizing hardware dependencies. On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 3:58 PM John Sarabacha <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Erich, > >> 3. Matthias wanted AmForth to be as close to the standard as > >> plausible. Of course there are differences, like the @e !e @i !i > >> Variants of @ and !. That is attributed to being close to the > >> hardware. Otherwise Matthias spent a lot of time to get AmForth > >> close to the standard. > > This was the most important aspect of AmForth, the actual hardware target > is not as important as this. > I am always amazed at how forth (with its many variants) has survived the > test of time. Many hardware > platforms have come and gone but forth is still here. The abstraction > layer that I talked about isolates the > hardware dependencies to keep changes to a minimum. What you want is being > close to an acceptable standard. > My application needs to run on a large number of nodes which could involve > many different platforms on a network. > It is interesting that the AmForth site (Commented Projects) has a link > (put there by Matthias?) that parallels what > is being done (but not with Wifi, RF or ethernet), experimentally of > course. > > > http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth/ef15/genproceedings/papers/peri.pdf > > Again I appreciate your input, > Regards, > John S > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 2:35 PM Carsten Strotmann via Amforth-devel < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> On Friday 30 January 2026 06:51:32 PM (+01:00), Erich Wälde wrote: >> >> > 2. Matthias started out with an indirect threaded code model, >> > because he understood, how it worked. Making this thing fast was >> > not high on the list. At the time he started there was a series >> > of articles in the "Vierte Dimension" magazine, on how to >> > construct a Forth from scratch. It was written by Ron Minke >> > around 2005/2006. >> > > https://forth-ev.de/wiki/vd-archiv >> > Unfortunately the links seem broken ... I have to tell -mk. >> > >> >> I can bring light into this issue: because Forth-Gesellschaft has been >> sued over the use of one picture in the VD magazine, for legal reasons the >> PDF download versions are not freely available anymore. The case has not >> been settled, but as a precaution the PDFs have been de-published. >> >> They will be available for members of Forth Gesellschaft in the future, >> we're working on a new system with authentication. >> >> I'm not sure if Forth Gesellschaft will risk allowing non-members in, as >> this incident almost killed Forth Gesellschaft financially. >> >> If someone here wishes to support work on Forth publications, maybe >> consider becoming a member. There is (was?) an English translated version >> of the magazine in addition to the German edition. >> >> Greetings >> >> >> Carsten >> (who will be @ FOSDEM, in the Retro-Computer Devroom on Sunday, in case >> someone want's to meet and talk some Forth) >> >> -- >> strotmann.de >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel >> > _______________________________________________ Amforth-devel mailing list for http://amforth.sf.net/ [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel
