Hello,
I'm not very sophisticated when it comes to formulas but has anyone
used an AMA or a TEMA instead of an EMA for standard deviation? It
might make it a bit smoother.

Tim




--- In [email protected], "NW Trader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Sorry for the blind ally with the Hull MA -- I have substituted it in a
> number of other formula for a MA or EMA with nice results (much
smoother and
> responsive curving).  I hadn't thought thru the consequence of
imaginary
> numbers -- but then sometimes our profits seem all too imaginary, so I
> should have. <VBG>
>
> I'll have to take a look at your EMA version some more and play with it
> some.   Thanks again for the insight.
>
>
> Peace and Justice   ---   Patrick
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Daniel LaLiberte
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:57 PM
>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Exponential Standard Deviation (EStDev)
>
>
>   Thanks for the pointer to the Hull MA, Patrick.  I found a
definition and
>   experimented with it, substituting HMA for EMA in my formula (based on
>   "sample stdev") and also the one that Paul Ho provided (based on
> "population
>   stdev").
>
>   HMA is apparently too fast for standard deviation calculations
because the
>   result is sometimes imaginary, due to taking the square root of a
negative
>   number.
>
>   I'm not sure why using EMA works out, and maybe it does fail in some
>   situations.  Even DEMA is too fast.  I suppose we could always
just use
> Nz()
>   to constrain it to zero, but who knows what the statistical meaning is
>   anymore.  For that matter, why should we assume that standard
deviation
> means
>   anything regarding the non-normal misbehaving stock market?  Oh well,
>   whatever works :)
>
>   dan
>
>
>   On Sunday 21 May 2006 11:52 pm, NW Trader wrote:
>   > Hi Dan,
>   >
>   > Try using a Hull MA -- it's a lot faster.
>   >
>   > Peace and Justice   ---   Patrick
>
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