Tomasz,

In the perfect Amibroker world,I would like a "user definable" benchmark and we could create a composite and do precisely what you suggested as well as selecting the asset of our choice.As for correlation,could one run the "explorer" and sort/rank the highest correlated assets? That would help regarding the correlation,R2 issue.I am not up to coding speed,so I am all ideas and no substance at this point!

I really like your idea,especially if we can have the option of creating a custom benchmark.

Allan

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tomasz Janeczko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:52 pm

Subject: Re: [amibroker] Comparitive Buy and Hold returns

> Hello,
>
> This was the reason why I did not include it when I wrote
> portfolio backtester, but since then
> I was considering adding this option for comparison purposes.
> One idea (as suggested by Allan) is to use benchmark such as
> SP500, but it won't be very useful
> when testing some small watch lists of stocks that are little
> correlated with large caps.
> Also for some instruments there is no benchmark (see forex for
> example),that's why I am thinking about another solution:
> creating own "benchmark" by using all symbols under test to create
> equal weighted composite
> and test buy and hold strategy on such artificial composite. This
> would give you some idea how
> well given strategy performs compared to passive investment.
>
> Any comments?
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: dingo
>  To: [email protected]
>  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:21 PM
>  Subject: RE: [amibroker] Comparitive Buy and Hold returns
>
>
>  How would you go about calc'ng B&H on an entire portfolio where
> you used scoring, etc?
>
>  d
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
>    From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:44 AM
>    To: [email protected]
>    Subject: Re: [amibroker] Comparitive Buy and Hold returns
>
>
>
>    with that said,I can not find buy and hold returns on the new
> report....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>    From: Tomasz Janeczko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>    Date: Monday, July 10, 2006 5:08 pm
>
>    Subject: Re: [amibroker] Comparitive Buy and Hold returns
>
>
>    > Hello,
>    >
>    > 1. Yes
>    > 2. Yes from mathematical standpoint however you would NOT be
> able
>    > to enter that many positions with limited capital
>    > so these results are theoretical only.
>    >
>    > 3. OLD backtester is phased out. It is there only for people
> who
>    > had some resutls from versions 4.40 or earlier stored
> somewhere and
>    > want to reproduce old backtests for some reason.
>    >
>    > All new code should use NEW portfolio-level backtester only.
>    >
>    > Best regards,
>    > Tomasz Janeczko
>    > amibroker.com
>    >  ----- Original Message -----
>    >  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    >  To: [email protected]
>    >  Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 9:59 PM
>    >  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Comparitive Buy and Hold returns
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >  So,if the system is a losing system and has a an average
> loss as
>    > opposed to profit,will the result be apx((approx (number of
>    > symbols) *  avg. loss ) ??
>    >
>    >  Are the buy and hold stats accurate?
>    >
>    >  Where can i find the definitions for the old backtest??
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    >  ----- Original Message -----
>    >
>    >
>    >  From: Tomasz Janeczko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>    >
>    >  Date: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:59 pm
>    >
>    >  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Comparitive Buy and Hold returns
>    >
>    >
>    >  > Hello,
>    >  >
>    >  > Please note that OLD backtester is not portfolio
> backtester.
>    >  > It backtests each security *separately* and sums up the
>    > results
>    >  > so your profits will be much higher (approx (number of
>    > symbols) *
>    >  > avg. profit )
>    >  >
>    >  > Best regards,
>    >  > Tomasz Janeczko
>    >  > amibroker.com
>    >  > ----- Original Message -----
>    >  > From: "matrix10014" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>    >  > To: <[email protected]>
>    >  > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 6:35 PM
>    >  > Subject: [amibroker] Comparitive Buy and Hold returns
>    >  >
>    >  >
>    >  > > Can someone please tell me where in reports you can
> easily
>    > see
>    >  > how
>    >  > > your system did relative to a buy and hold strategy??
>    >  > >
>    >  > > I did see some Buy and Hold stats in the Old
> backtester,but
>    > some
>    >  > of
>    >  > > the numbers were of by a factor of 10-100..
>    >  > >
>    >  > >
>    >  > > Total net profit: 532108.89   Total commissions paid:
> 0.00
>    >  > > Return on account: 6.82 %    Open position gain/loss
>    > 11931.24
>    >  > > Buy&Hold profit: 3657774.41   Bars (avg. days) in test:
>    > 13351
>    >  > (250)
>    >  > > Buy&Hold % return: 46.89%   System to Buy&Hold index: -
>    > 85.45%
>    >  > > 
>    >  > > Annual system % return: 10.11%   Annual B&H % return:
> 75.32%
>    >  > > 
>    >  > >
>    >  > > those numbers posted were on a $100,000 account!!I have
> no
>    > idea
>    >  > where
>    >  > > the total net profit number of 532,108.89 came
> from..And I
>    >  > really dont
>    >  > > know how a 532,108 profit only generates a 6.82% return
> on a
>    >  > $100000
>    >  > > account
>    >  > >
>    >  > > Thanks
>    >  > >
>    >  > > Allan
>    >  > >
>    >  > >
>    >  > >
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