What I think is that this issue is at best trivial ...

Beyond that I'd prefer to use a file manager to manage files and 
there's no need to close AB prior to playing with folders ...

Beyond that if you insist in doing stuff like this from within AB 
then there are more then enough tools already (Pick from the AA 
Window for example) that let you walk folders and files from which 
you can delete whatever you like ... 

--- In [email protected], "brian.z123" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Fred,
> 
> Do you think it is better to close AmiBroker, go to Windows 
Explorer 
> and manage database deletion from there (you will have to remember 
> which database you last nominated as the default in 
> tools/preferences) 
> 
> OR
> 
> go to AB file/delete whilst Amibroker is open and delete the old 
> databases from there?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> BrianB2.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Fred" <ftonetti@> wrote:
> >
> > What ??? ... No MP3 Player ?! ... and I was so hoping that 
> eventually 
> > I'd automatically get a popup video that would not only show me 
> the 
> > error of my ways in coding and of course automatically fix them, 
> but 
> > would also perform the same function for non profitable 
> systems ... 
> > Waaaaaaa ... 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > Just few thoughts about things you mentioned in your reply.
> > > 
> > > > I made it quite clear that I was referring to 'industry 
> standard' 
> > > > features that are lacking in the program in general 
> > > 
> > > There are no "industry standard" features lacking in the 
program 
> in 
> > general.
> > > AmiBroker features GUI fully conforming to LATEST UI standards,
> > > including most modern UI look ("Whidbey or 2006 look").
> > > For more info see:
> > > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/h_customizeui.html
> > > 
> > > Actually no other T/A platform has such modern, aestetical and 
> > configurable
> > > interface as AmiBroker has.  
> > > 
> > > Just install any other T/A software and you will quickly see
> > > how outdated they are compared to AmiBroker when it comes to UI.
> > > 
> > > > ... and the  workspace in particular 
> > > 
> > > I don't know exactly what you mean with the workspace. The old 
> > workspace pane is gone
> > > in 4.80 as all tabs are now fully configurable and detachable.
> > > 
> > > If you mean symbol tree or chart tree then there are several 
> ideas 
> > floating around
> > > how to make it better but it functionality outpaces most other 
> T/A 
> > softwares
> > > (for example Metastock has no built in support for categories 
at 
> > all and
> > > its indicator list is flat (without folders at all) ).
> > > 
> > > That said it does not mean that things can not be made even 
> better.
> > > 
> > > > My proposition is that 'Microsoft like' GUI operating 
features 
> > are a 
> > > > defacto industry standard (sorry Mac, Linux users etc - I 
> don't 
> > know 
> > > > anything about those systems).
> > > 
> > > I wrote you : AmIBroker GUI already features newest 
> and "coolest" 
> > and
> > > up-to most recent Microsoft-fashion GUI design in T/A world.
> > > 
> > > I am afraid you mixup two things: you say GUI when thinking 
> about 
> > some
> > > particular feature such as for example updating your watch list 
> > from AmiQuote
> > > (instead of full symbol list). This isn't GUI. This is a 
> > convenience feature.
> > > 
> > > As to:
> > > 
> > > > Easy management of old/trial databases.
> > > > Allow removal of parts of database that are known to be 
> incorrect 
> > > > while retaining other parts.
> > > > REPLY by  Tomasz Janeczko
> > > > status - Closed   
> > > > Status - Functionality exists  
> > > 
> > > why did I close this issue ? Simply because it is:
> > > a) achievable simply using Windows Explorer - you can delete 
> > database files/directories.
> > > The meaning of files is described in the User's Guide:
> > > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/h_workspace.html
> > > and
> > > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/x_files.html
> > > 
> > > b) rarely used once you start actual trading. 
> > > It could be used more often in phase when you 
> are "experimenting" 
> > but
> > > once you are done with experiments and start trading the need 
to 
> > delete database
> > > may appear once or twice a week at most. So I don't see any 
> problem 
> > in using
> > > Windows Explorer once or twice a week.
> > > 
> > > I understand that you would like to have everything included 
> (maybe 
> > MP3 player too),
> > > but for me it has such low priority that I have to scratch that 
> as 
> > there are things
> > > hundreds of times more important than this.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > If I don't post any new examples in the future it will only 
be 
> > > > because I choose to conserve my energy and/or that I am not 
> > entirely
> > > > comfortable in the feedback center (it is not democratic 
> enough 
> > for 
> > > > my liking).
> > > 
> > > Well democracy may be good idea for ruling countries,
> > > but when it comes to software development there has to be 
someone
> > > who directs the show and is responsible for the whole thing.
> > > Democracy in software development does not exist. Even open 
> source
> > > projects have "leaders" that ultimately decide and their 
> decision 
> > is final and binding.
> > > 
> > > Still you will find AmiBroker one of the most user-oriented 
> company 
> > in T/A software world,
> > > listening to users and implementing features asked for.
> > > 
> > > AmiBroker is written entirely by me so I fully control its 
> > development and
> > > direction in which it evolves.
> > > While you are welcome to suggest things please do not expect me 
> to 
> > explain each and every decision of mine.
> > > I have good reasons to do what I do and I am doing my best to 
> make 
> > good decisions.
> > > My goal is to get most bang for the buck. When it comes to 
> > marketing it means that you get great program for low price.
> > > When it comes to development it means to spend time on most 
> > critical features and features used by majority first and postpone
> > > less important / rarely used things.
> > > 
> > > The fact that AmiBroker is around for 11 years now means that 
my 
> > choices were not that bad.
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > amibroker.com
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "brian.z123" <brian.z123@>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:46 AM
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Indicator Maintenance
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Hello Tomasz,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for your reply and consideration of my points.
> > > > 
> > > > I made it quite clear that I was referring to 'industry 
> standard' 
> > > > features that are lacking in the program in general and the 
> > > > workspace in particular so it is not a fair response that you 
> > only 
> > > > refer to a few particular features that are actually 
available 
> in 
> > > > one 'pane' of the workspace alone.
> > > > 
> > > > I specifically acknowledged that I was wearing my 'new user' 
> hat 
> > and 
> > > > that my arguments were 'off the top of my head' (it is 
> generally 
> > > > accepted in 'creative or problem solving' sessions that it is 
> > best 
> > > > not to censor the output in the intitial phase).
> > > > I don't think you will find one single example in any post I 
> have 
> > > > made in any forum where I have failed to back up my 
> > opening 'silly' 
> > > > statements if challenged (there are one or two exceptions 
> where I 
> > > > withdrew but that was done to protect others, not me).
> > > > I also already conceded; 'That (my comments are) of 
course ... 
> > only 
> > > > a personal opinion and perhaps my views will change as I 
spend 
> > more 
> > > > time in the program.'
> > > > 
> > > > Ergonomics is a relatively new word.
> > > > One way it is used is as a measure of 'energy efficiency 
> within 
> > work 
> > > > processes'.
> > > > That is what I meant when I used it and within the context of 
> > > > computer programs my measure of ergonomic efficiency is the 
> > number 
> > > > of mouse clicks required to perform a set task and also the 
> ease 
> > > > with which we can replicate that task at a later date (from 
> > memory?)
> > > > 
> > > > My Office assistant is turned off and always has been.
> > > > 
> > > > I stand by my comments that AB lacks ergonomics, training and 
> > detail 
> > > > in part or partss.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > My Proposition:
> > > > 
> > > > My proposition is that 'Microsoft like' GUI operating 
features 
> > are a 
> > > > defacto industry standard (sorry Mac, Linux users etc - I 
> don't 
> > know 
> > > > anything about those systems).
> > > > My expectation of programs is that they will equal or surpass 
> > > > the 'industry standard'.
> > > > Of course that is a very general statement that can't be 
> easily 
> > > > debated without specific examples and in this case I didn't 
> > provide 
> > > > any.
> > > > All I ask, at any time, is that each suggestion is considered 
> on 
> > its 
> > > > own merit and not 'marked' according to the status of the 
> poster 
> > or 
> > > > the prejudices of individual forum members.
> > > > My confidence in that area is a little down at the moment.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Re: a specific example from within the database of existing 
> posts
> > > > 
> > > > 
> ******************************************************************
> > > > 
> > > > Post #195 from the feedback center.
> > > > subject - delete old databases from file menu 
> > > > 
> > > > I said:
> > > > Consider selection of partial deletions for anything than can 
> be 
> > > > separated out i.e retain data and delete categories 
> > > > (broker workspace) and vice-versa, layouts?
> > > > 
> > > > Reason.
> > > > 
> > > > Easy management of old/trial databases.
> > > > Allow removal of parts of database that are known to be 
> incorrect 
> > > > while retaining other parts.
> > > > If database is current or default AB will 'know' and make 
> > > > announcement and/or adjustment.  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > You said:
> > > > REPLY by  Tomasz Janeczko
> > > > status - Closed   
> > > > Status - Functionality exists  
> > > > 
> > > > If you mean most recently used database list in File menu - 
> non-
> > > > existing folders ALREADY gets deleted from the menu.
> > > > Just delete the directory using Windows explorer and next 
time 
> > you 
> > > > run AmiBroker it won't show up in the File menu. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > 
*******************************************************************
> > > > 
> > > > Admittedly I did not explain myself very well at the feedback 
> > > > center, but I did follow up later with an email via support 
> that 
> > > > clarified and detailed my case.
> > > > You could have also asked for further clarification at the 
> > feedback 
> > > > center if you weren't sure what I meant.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > What is the 'industry standard' for file management within 
> > programs?
> > > > 
> > > > Go to the program file menu and delete the old program 
> > > > files/databases that the user no longer requires.
> > > > View all of the program files/databases in a hierarchical 
tree 
> > and 
> > > > enact commands from there.
> > > > 
> > > > What is the AB standard?
> > > > 
> > > > Close AB (or go out of AB?), go to Windows Explorer and 
delete 
> > old 
> > > > databases from there.
> > > > 
> > > > What specific delete features could AB provide that MS can 
not 
> be 
> > > > expected to?
> > > > 
> > > > If the user attempts to delete a database that is selected in 
> AB 
> > > > preferences as the default, Windows Explorer will not delete 
> it.
> > > > If file/delete existed in AB the user could be given a 
> > message 'this 
> > > > database can not be deleted as it is the default. To delete 
> this 
> > > > database go to tools etc'.
> > > > 
> > > > The AB database folder also contains components that have 
> extra 
> > > > relevance to the user. The user might want to keep the symbol 
> > > > lists/categories and just delete all price data.
> > > > File/delete in AB could provide users with appropriate delete 
> > > > options to do that type of thing and also warn as to the 
> > > > consequences of each action.
> > > > 
> > > > The above, existing case, is a reasonable example of 
> > the 'industry 
> > > > standard'/AB gap.
> > > > At the least it is worthy of consideration and discussion.
> > > > If I don't post any new examples in the future it will only 
be 
> > > > because I choose to conserve my energy and/or that I am not 
> > entirely
> > > > comfortable in the feedback center (it is not democratic 
> enough 
> > for 
> > > > my liking).
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > >
> >
>







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