Hello John,

Humble apologies.
I had no idea it was a 2003 post or I wouldn't have bothered you.
It was at the head of my messages a few days back.
I don't know who started it off. 
No wonder I couldn't get the drift of some of your comments.
It does have a funny side to it because it made a darn good topic.
We have been ripping into it and each other for a few days and some 
really informative and interesting posts were made.

Thanks for your replies which are still helpful even in the 
circumstances.
You are an absolute gentleman but I already knew that from your 
previous posts.


Regards,

BrianB2.

--- In [email protected], "John R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Wow that post of mine you quoted goes back to March 2003 and a lot 
of things change in the AB world in that time ;-)
> 
> Now just to contradict myself I don't think that drag n drop has 
really changed in that time.
> 
> To answer your question the hidden (by default) D&D folder is used 
to keep the code for panes which have had indicators "Inserted" .  
The folder can be unhidden via a setting in Preferences:AFL and will 
then show up in Charts tree in workspace.
> 
> D&D works by just creating additional serialised copies of 
original indicator source code and wrapping code it with Section 
markers. If you unhide the D&D folder and experiment with D&D 
Inserting/Overlaying/Inserting Linked panes you will be able to see 
and view/edit the generated code. 
> 
> Personally I do not use D&D.  I build my indicators and systems in 
a strictly modular fashion. I want a single source defintion for 
each indicator and if I change the indicator logic then I want all 
other code which references that indicator to be affected by that 
change. For this reason I only use Insert Linked and use External 
editor and version control to control my source code.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -- Original Message ----- 
>   From: brian.z123 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:42 PM
>   Subject: [amibroker] Re: Indicator Maintenance
> 
> 
>   Hello John,
> 
>   Hidden drag-drop folder.
> 
>   I am surprised that no one mentioned the hidden drag-drop folder 
>   feature when discussing indicator maintenance.
>   Do you use it at all and if so does it help?
>   My thoughts are it should play a crucial part.
> 
>   Regards,
> 
>   BrianB2.
> 
>   --- In [email protected], "John R" <jr-ta@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Having just corrupted some of my indicators yet again I 
thought I 
>   would post
>   > some personal observations and suggested improvements on AB 
>   indicator
>   > maintenance. I am posting here rather than direct to the AB 
>   suggestions box
>   > to get the POV of other users. Hopefully others may be able to 
>   offer some
>   > tips on best practice or point out the error of my ways and 
also 
>   if enough
>   > users chime in we can then compile a list of agreed 
suggestions 
>   for TJ to
>   > consider.
>   > 
>   > OK here are my observations:-
>   > 
>   > It is *far* too easy to corrupt indicators without even 
realising 
>   it. I bet
>   > nearly everyone has done this. For those who think you have 
never 
>   done it
>   > try checking thru the code of all your custom and builtin 
>   indicators and see
>   > if they contain what you expect ;-)
>   > 
>   > In the early days of AB when we only had slots for a few 
custom 
>   indicators
>   > (20 was it?) maintenance was not a problem. But with large and 
>   increasing
>   > numbers of indicators I find accurate maintenance a real 
problem. 
>   In
>   > addition we have systems, explorations, scans, filters and 
those 
>   which do
>   > combinations. Over time I have tried various methods of file 
>   suffixes,
>   > prefixes, directories etc. to try and keep things under 
control 
>   but never
>   > been entirely happy with it. My feeling is there must be a 
better 
>   more
>   > organised solution with maybe separate directories for these 
>   specified via
>   > Preferences.
>   > 
>   > One of the big problems I have is indicators getting out of 
sync 
>   with the
>   > corresponding .afl file on disk. For example it is very easy 
to 
>   make an
>   > amendment to an indicator while testing visually via 
charts/guru 
>   commentary
>   > and forget to save to the correct afl file on disk. Later when 
I 
>   come to
>   > system test and copy/paste the code into test afl from disk I 
get 
>   unexpected
>   > results. BTW I am sure the endless copy/edit/paste operations 
will 
>   eventally
>   > drive me to complete baldness - my background is in 
commericial IT 
>   systems
>   > development so it goes very much against the grain when you 
cannot 
>   define a
>   > formula/module just once and then just refrence it wherever 
>   required. TJ
>   > has said he will add this facility but will I have any hair 
left 
>   by then ;^)
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Suggested improvements:-
>   > 
>   > In IB add a Copy button to enable a new version of an 
indictaor to 
>   be
>   > created quickly. Default new name = old name with numeric 
suffice 
>   e.g.
>   > HolyGrail[2]
>   > 
>   > In indicator browse list add columns for date and time last 
>   modified. Allow
>   > sorting on name column or date and time. At present you cannot 
>   check dates
>   > or easily determine which indciators you were last working on.
>   > 
>   > In indicator browse list add columns for In quick list, Uses 
>   builtin code,
>   > Use formula only. At present you must laboriously click down 
thru 
>   every list
>   > item to determine these.
>   > 
>   > Provide some protection or warning to prevent unintentional 
>   overwriting when
>   > using Load.
>   > 
>   > IMO indicators should be directly related by filename to the 
>   corresponding
>   > disk file. For example the indicator HolyGrail7 is defined via 
the 
>   disk file
>   > HolyGrail7.afl Ideally AB preferences would specify the 
directory 
>   name(s)
>   > for custom and standard indicators. This would prevent many 
>   maintenance
>   > problems that the current architecture invites and would also 
>   facilitate
>   > many other maintance operations (see below).
>   > 
>   > Facility to bulk load indicators from disk files into AB. i.e. 
>   browse and
>   > select multiple .afl disk files which are then loaded into 
>   corresponding
>   > custom or builtin indicator names.
>   > 
>   > Facility to bulk copy indicators from AB to disk files i.e. 
>   browse and
>   > select multiple AB indictors which are then copied to selected 
>   windows
>   > directory.
>   > 
>   > Allow the default directories for custom and bulitin 
indicators to 
>   be
>   > specified via Preferences. Maybe also systems, explorations, 
>   scans....?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > All POVs welcome.
>   > 
>   > John
>   >
>






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