Hi Allan - thanks very much!

I am not very knowledgeable about these figures, but I wiill be reading up 
on them soon ( thanks for the link! ).  I have not tried to calculate them 
myself, I will start by using AB's built-in metrics, but I at least wanted 
to verify what numbers I should punch into the backtest settings in order to 
get correct Results. My testing these days is limited to just a few indices, 
so thankfully I don't think I will need to worry about dividends for the 
moment  8 - )   but I have saved your post for future reference.

Allan, as long as we are discussing these metrics, and since I will be 
trying to seriously evaluate some of AB's newer metrics for the first time, 
I wonder if you or any other knowledgeable people might be interested in 
commenting on what numbers you would find "acceptable" for the following, 
which do not have any suggested numbers in the help file. TIA for any 
advice!

Recovery Factor
Profit Facor
Payoff Ratio
Standard Error
RRR
UI
UPI

Steve

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From: "matrix10014" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:46 AM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: risk-free return


> Hi Steve,
>
> You should use the effective yeild,NOT the discount rate as in high
> interest rate enviorments you will have significant
> discrepancies.With a 5.07 yeild there is only a 13 bps dicrepency,so
> its no big deal..
>
> What you really should be concerned with is including dividends in
> the numerator.If you happen to be backtesting stocks with high
> yeilds that are going ex dividend during your backtesting period,you
> will be severly understating your excess return if you dont include
> dividends(yeild)
>
> Its not a big deal as a measure of risk as long as you are
> consistent.Also,check to see if you are comparing your "ulcer" vs
> someone elses,if theres is dividen adjusted..Apples to apples
>
> If you would like some more info as why the Ulcr is a far better
> measure than traditional Sharpe
>
> http://www.tangotools.com/ui/ui.htm
>
> Any questions,feel free to ask or write me directly
>
> Allan
>
> There i something far more important than  --- In
> [email protected], "Steve Dugas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there any reason that AB's risk-free return rate should be
> different for Sharp Ratio and UPI? Should I just use 3 month T-Bill
> for both? If so, should I use the yeild (5.07) rather than the
> discount (4.94)? Thank you!
>>
>> Steve
>>
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