Allan,

Can you define "non correlated" stategies or provide an example 
without giving away the family jewels?

Maybe it is worthy of a topic on it's own.

BrianB2.

--- In [email protected], "matrix10014" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
> I run a hedge fund out of NY and we do employ a ranking system 
very 
> similar to what you find in HGSI.We add a value overlay,but I will 
> tell you that trying to duplicate/improve on what they do is 
> probably not the best use of your time.IMHO,if you are  a momentum 
> type trader,their approach is excellent and I do not think you 
will 
> build a better mousetrap.I have a very talented quant as well phd 
in 
> applied math working for me and much of what they do is 
exceedingly 
> similar to HGSI and Zacks..
> 
> When we stopped trying to reinvent the wheel and focused our 
efforts 
> on diversifying into "non correalted" stategies ,we were far more 
> productive and profitable
> 
> Just my 2 cents
> 
> --- In [email protected], Ken Close <ken45140@> wrote:
> >
> > Brian: thanks for the reminder on your xls; I will go look at 
it, 
> but I have
> > plugged the trigger on the new subscription.
> > 
> > Regarding your comment:   " "My opinion was that the QP ranking 
> systems were
> > fairly transparent and could be duplicated in AB with relative 
> ease'",  I
> > think this is an assertion that may prove harder to fulfill than 
> you
> > realize.  Unless you have already done this (and if you have, 
you 
> would be
> > my new best friend because I would like to see it), I think you 
> will find
> > that developing a ranking score (and I do not mean the 
> PositionScore
> > variable within AB) that is integer based is extremely 
difficult.  
> I have
> > tried numerous approaches, including using PositionScore, and do 
> not get
> > anything meaningful.  In fact, I believe I am correct that the 
> only way to
> > create integer rankings of calculated quantities within Ab is to 
> use the
> > so-called Osaka plugin, something of complexity that I have so 
far 
> been
> > unwilling to tackle.  Drawing QP3 integer rankings out has been 
my 
> only
> > "easy" solution.
> > 
> > If anyone wants to refute my claim, I would be more than welcome 
> to see an
> > approach that is shareable, doesn't require C++ programming 
> skills, and
> > satisfies the need to create integer ranking scores/numbers.
> > 
> > Ken
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf
> > Of brian.z123
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:00 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Quotes Plus Mutual Funds
> > 
> > Ken,
> > 
> > The answer to your question is no.
> > You would not have access to the ranking scores if you had not 
> purchased
> > SPP.
> > 
> > I have posted an updated QPAmiCompare.xls file.
> > I used the file in the first place to track the raw data that 
was 
> used in
> > various places between QP and Ami.
> > The QP scan database, which is installed on your hard-drive, 
> appears to be
> > the underlying database for SPP.
> > From the SPP help/data fields section each of the fields in SPP 
> states if it
> > is a computed or imported field so they can be cross referenced 
to 
> each
> > other.
> > So with the exception of QRS and EPS rank all of the other ranks 
> are
> > calculated in SPP and not part of the Ami package.
> > 
> > To correct my previous statement on ethical grounds:
> > 
> > "My opinion was that the QP ranking systems were fairly 
> transparent and
> > could be duplicated in AB with relative ease'"
> > 
> > I am biased towards creating my own rankings anyway.
> > I wasn't considering QP for the rankings.
> > Most if not all of the rankings used in QP are already part of 
the 
> public
> > domain.
> > 
> > BrianB2.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Ken Close <ken45140@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Steve, for your comments.  I, too, am beginning to
> > concentrate on
> > > just ETFs and the "daily" funds from Profunds, Rydex, and
> > Potomac.  Hence my
> > > desire to isolate just those.   If I had spent more time with 
> the 
> > trial I
> > > might have tried to get by without the SPP. but all the pretty 
> red
> > and green
> > > boxes got to me and I liked them. Can I assume that I still 
would
> > have had
> > > access to the ranking scores even if I had not purchased the 
SPP?
> > >  
> > > Ken
> > > 
> > >   _____
> > > 
> > > From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf
> > > Of Steve Dugas
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:36 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Quotes Plus Mutual Funds
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Ken - I see that Joe has already come up with a solution for
> > you. When I
> > > went back to QP recently, I did not sign up for SPP since I am 
> now 
> > > concentrating only on 2x +/- funds. There are not that many of
> > them so I
> > > just created my watchlists by hand. I did want to get the funds
> > themselves
> > > into AB so I could access them there, but for testing, etc I
> > generally use
> > > the benchmark indices rather than the funds themselves. QP 
lacks
> > several of
> > > these benchmarks, especially for the foreign markets, so for 
> these
> > I
> > > substitute the most popular ETF's instead.
> > >  
> > > BTW, if you like the 2x funds, don't forget about DireXion. 
Their
> > American
> > > funds are 2.5-beta. Also, for anyone that might not be aware,
> > ProFunds
> > > introduced their 2x +/- ETF's last month. See www.proshares.com
> > for more
> > > info.
> > >  
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ken Close <mailto:ken45140@>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:31 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [amibroker] Quotes Plus Mutual Funds
> > > 
> > > Steve:
> > >  
> > > Many thanks.  Now that I am signed up, am discovering various
> > unfriendly
> > > aspects to the program(s) that I guess I did not discover or 
try
> > hard enough
> > > during the trial period.  But I want the data (mainly the ranks
> > which can be
> > > imported into AB) so I will have to slog thru a learning curve,
> > just like
> > > with ..... well ...... AB.  I dont want to do complex things, 
> just
> > isolate
> > > ETFs and Rydex/Profunds Mutual Funds.  Should be simple and 
> almost 
> > > intuitive.  It is not.
> > >  
> > > Thanks for the response.
> > >  
> > > Ken
> > >  
> > > PS:  If you dont mind, is the easiest way to get a Watchlist 
of 
> the 
> > > Rydex/Profunds Mutual Funds to import via a lst or txt file of 
> the
> > symbols??
> > > 
> > >   _____
> > > 
> > > From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf
> > > Of Steve Dugas
> > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:28 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Quotes Plus Mutual Funds
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ken - By Default, QP plugin does not retrieve MF's or futures. 
Go
> > to File >
> > > Database Settings > Configure, check the box for MF's and hit
> > Retrieve.
> > >  
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Ken Close <mailto:ken45140@>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:08 PM
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Quotes Plus Mutual Funds
> > > 
> > > Maybe this is obvious, but how do I chart Quotes Plus 3 Mutual
> > Funds.
> > >  
> > > I do not see any data plugin just for QP Mutual Funds.
> > >  
> > > I am plotting stocks and ETFs find with the QP3 database.  I 
have
> > mutual
> > > fund data on my drive (can plot with QP charting package), but 
I
> > do not see
> > > how to make AB do that.
> > >  
> > > Thanks for your suggestions.
> > >  
> > > Ken
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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