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> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:38 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Backtest vs Forwardtest
> 
> Robustness is a tough discussion to have as it can go many 
> different places ...
> 
> In one of its simplest forms ( which is how I like to keep it 
> ) robustness is to at least some degree a function of the 
> robustness of the parameter values ( those you choose to 
> optimize AND most of those you believe for some reasons are 
> constants ).  Looking at this from the view of the parameters 
> ... the less sensitive the parameters are the more robust 
> your system is likely to be ...
> 
> With a two parameter system how sensitive the parameters are 
> can be seen by looking at the 3d charts that are part of 
> AmiBroker i.e. what happens to the performance metric you 
> have on the Z-axis as the parameter values change ... With 
> more than two parameters the process is a little more 
> difficult.  One way to test the sensitivty of the existing 
> parameter values is to simultaneously test randomly generated 
> values for each of the parameters in the +/- n% range from 
> the values that you or optimization has picked.  The output 
> will be a collecion of optimization lines or backtests if you 
> will that will demonstrate how sensitive your parameters are. 
>  This is an automated feature of the shareware version of IO 
> i.e. to perform the random tests and plot the results in 
> histogram format.
> 
> --- In [email protected], "dingo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > As far as "this is a whole another issue" - I seriously doubt
> that's the
> > case.  Sounds like the same general problem to me.
> > 
> > Download IO.zip and read thru the docs and see if any of that makes
> sense to
> > you...
> > 
> > d
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of intermilan04
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:32 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Backtest vs Forwardtest
> > > 
> > > I wish I was making 75% up to now :-) The 75% is the result of my 
> > > system which is optimized between 2001-2006.  Since I'm always 
> > > trying to improve my system, I don't necessarily have traded with 
> > > the system verbatim from
> 2006/1/1.
> > > 
> > > Now I am having an issue where as soon as I start using a 
> system its 
> > > performance drops :-D  but this is a whole another issue 
> so I didn't 
> > > mention about it here.
> > > 
> > > intermilan04
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "sebastiandanconia"
> > > <sebastiandanconia@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nope, I just meant that he measured all the other years from 
> > > > Jan.1-Jan.1, so he's not comparing apples to apples by
> > > looking at YTD
> > > > performance.  We're coming into a time of year when there are 
> > > > typically major drops followed by major rallies, so if his
> system 
> > > > captures that behavior it could make up for its miserable
> > > 75% profit
> > > > up until now.:)
> > > > 
> > > > I hear you about real DD's that exceed that of tested
> > > methods.  That's
> > > > why I think it's so important to understand why a system
> > > works, beyond
> > > > simply the fact that it's tested-out well, which could just be
> a 
> > > > mathematical coincidence, a meaningless correlation without any 
> > > > cause-and-effect relationship.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Luck,
> > > > 
> > > > Sebastian
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Fred" <ftonetti@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "So, two things: First, the obvious one, you can't really
> > > know that
> > > > > your system has "broken down" until you get the final results
> on 
> > > > > January 1, 2007.:)"
> > > > > 
> > > > > Really ? ... You mean there is no point at which real DD's
> exceed 
> > > > > previous experience you wouldn't think that system is broken ?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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