No prob ... I asked no questions ... Looks like TJ solved the problem retroactively since the solution already existed ... an alternate place to put stuff which I had forgotten about ...
--- In [email protected], "brian.z123" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fred, > > I apologise for not answering your first post sooner which might > have allayed your concerns. > I have been answering one post a day and I was saving the best until > last for theatrical reasons. > I am aware of similar views as they have been expressed before by > QuantTrader, for example, who is waiting for dual core optimising. > > >Unless I am mistaken, TJ is the "MODERATOR" ... > > >Let's please NOT make busy work for the DEVELOPER > > Tomasz invites suggestions. > My respect extends to not telling Tomasz what to do with them or > when and how to do it. > I just enthusiastically comply with his request. > > I have two motivations for my efforts with the file section: > > 1. to offer some help to support. > If they want to delete some old files they can do so quickly by > using my list. > Researching the list was very time consuming. > > 2. To be proactive in helping provide some easier ingress to new > users. > Others answer questions and provide code etc in the forum. > This was just a small administrative task that I could do. > If a little time was taken intitially to setup some folders it would > be quicker to manage future cleanups. > I also believe a lot of new user enquiry could be diverted by > putting a few stepping stones in place for them. > Some guidelines for new users could be placed in the file section > which is prime AmiBroker real estate. > The file section has higher value to new users than old hands simply > because if a file was any good every existing member would already > have a copy. > For that reason old timers are not going to go there unless a new > file is posted and then they won't stay long and have no reason to > go back. > > It is only a trivial issue but it all adds up. > > As I said before. > All information from the file section discussion will be going to > support. > I am in communication with Marcin on this subject. > I couldn't implement anything that support didn't agree to and I > wouldn't want to anyway. > > As you can see from ~Bmans post, others are also prepared to help > with the dirty work so support won't have to do it. > > All I have done is provide support with some free options. > Are you saying that is a bad thing? > > BrianB2 @:-)......cossack > > > > --- In [email protected], "Fred" <ftonetti@> wrote: > > > > If your time was that precious you'd be using it for something > other > > than trying to be hall monitor. The leader in this case may have > > elected to spend absolutely no time dealing with it which imho > would > > have been a good choice. > > > > --- In [email protected], "brian.z123" <brian.z123@> wrote: > > > > > > ~Bman, > > > > > > I can't criticise your motives which are based on concern for > your > > > fellow man/woman. > > > Frequently it is necessary for leaders to make tough decisions > > based > > > on the greater good e.g do we keep every file for ever because > one > > > person might find it interesting some day or do we delete files > > with > > > little value to make it easier for, say, 100 new users to > research > > > the collection? > > > > > > I don't know about others, but my time is like gold to me and I > > > don't think it is *cool* to rummage around amongst other peoples > > > junk files. > > > > > > I have *quickly* read every file in the database and I am > confident > > > in saying that a lot of them are a load of old rubbish. > > > When I voted I erred on the side of caution and kept the > doubtful > > > files. > > > I also allowed for a ? vote which indicates I don't know enough > > > about it to make a firm decision. > > > ?'s can stay as far as I am concerned. > > > > > > Here are three examples of the types of files we have: > > > > > > 1. years old zipped collection that contains an executable with > no > > > notes or instructions and no reference to a #message. > > > > > > I don't want to open executables when I don't know what they are > > > going to do. > > > The site that it is referenced to i.e. yahoo sometimes changes > it's > > > format. > > > The file probably doesn't even work anymore. > > > > > > 2. years old .CSV file with no instructions, no column headings, > > and > > > no reference to #message. > > > It appears to be a ticker list. > > > People are obsessed with stockpiling ticker lists. > > > Sources of current ticker lists are readily available for > download > > > in various places; the exchanges are one good place to start. > > > > > > 3. sound wave files?????????? > > > > > > There are a gazillion and one sound wave files easily optainable > > > from the net. > > > > > > How many of the owners of these files are still active forum > > members > > > or even paid up Ami subscribers? > > > Not one single owner of a file has come forward to say 'My file > is > > > abc123 and this is what it is useful for and it is still > current. > > > Would the forum like me to add some txt instructions?'. > > > Off course they don't have to do that but it makes me wonder. > > > If the owners don't have any pride in their own work why would I > > > place any value on it? > > > > > > That is just three examples but rest assured I considered every > > file > > > carefully and justified my vote to my own conscience. > > > > > > BrianB2. > > > > > > 2. --- In [email protected], "brpnw1" <tradermail@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Removing files does not get my vote. You could be removing > > > something > > > > that has value for somebody else. How can one individual > > determine > > > > the value a file might have for another individual? This is > > > > impossible. > > > > > > > > I continue to stupidly delete my own old code that later on I > > find > > > I > > > > need. If I simply archived all my code, this would not be an > > > issue. > > > > So now I archive EVERYTHING. Organization is the bigger issue > now. > > > > > > > > Removing files should never be necessary. Reorganizing them > might > > > be > > > > helpful, though. Creating an organization system that can be > > > monkey- > > > > tested on novice users is probably the best way to go. If a > > newbie > > > > can't navigate the file structure to find what they want > quickly > > > and > > > > easily, then don't mess with it in the first place because you > > > will > > > > not have achieved the goal. > > > > > > > > ~Bman > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There is really no shortage of real estate - all the other > > > groups > > > > I listed here yesterday have plenty of free space for > additional > > > > files... > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Mark H > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:03 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Group File Deletions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Brian: > > > > > > > > > > Instead of going though this selection voting process, how > > > about > > > > consult with TJ to see if we can move all those files to a > folder > > > > under: > > > > > http://www.amibroker.org/3rdparty/ > > > > > > > > > > They are merely 20MB in total. Very little space indeed in > > > terms > > > > of a modern hard drive. > > > > > Then we can put a note and a link over amibroker group > file > > > > section so people can find the files. > > > > > If this doesn't work, then we can vote, > > > > > > > > > > - Mark H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: brian.z123 > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 7:56 PM > > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Group File Deletions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VOTE,VOTE, VOTE. > > > > > > > > > > I am going to collect suggestions about the Group file > > > section > > > > to > > > > > send to support. > > > > > I am also inviting all forum users to vote for the files > > > they > > > > would > > > > > like to keep in the file section. > > > > > The format of the voting process is discussed in an > > attached > > > > post. > > > > > At the end of the voting I will send the results to > support > > > > and ask > > > > > them to consider deleting files that no one or perhaps > very > > > > few want > > > > > to keep. > > > > > > > > > > DO NOT EMAIL SUPPORT ON THIS ISSUE. > > > > > > > > > > It is entirely my own initiative. > > > > > > > > > > QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON VOTING ETC IS INVITED WITHIN > > THIS > > > > TOPIC. > > > > > > > > > > Voting will be confidential. > > > > > Please do not make people feel uncomfortable by > commenting > > > on > > > > the > > > > > votes as recorded or file ownership by name. > > > > > A vigorous discussion on the use of the file section > will > > be > > > > invited > > > > > in a separate topic. > > > > > > > > > > THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. > > > > > THERE IS NO GUARANTEE AT THE END THAT ANY ACTION WILL BE > > > TAKEN > > > > BY > > > > > SUPPORT. > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure what the outcome will be. > > > > > It depends on the forum and whether or not we can reach > a > > > > reasonable > > > > > consensus on any issue or issues. > > > > > > > > > > THE FINAL DECISION IN ANY CASE REMAINS WITH AMIBROKER > > > SUPPORT. > > > > > > > > > > Don't shoot me I am only the messenger. > > > > > This is a one-off initiative on my part. > > > > > It does not imply that I would undertake any similar > action > > > in > > > > the > > > > > future or that I have any defined role or authority > within > > > the > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your consideration of my proposals. > > > > > > > > > > BrianB2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. 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