Sorry Ara/Ken,
I think this is a non issue. Else we would be having
static build up
just from all the FANs already in PC's.
More of a
problem would be walking across a synthetic carpet etc then
contacting the
components.
ATB
MSG
Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> The same
applies when using a vacuum cleaner to suck up dust. It to,
> will
create static.
>
>
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com
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> *On Behalf Of *Ara Kaloustian
> *Sent:* Sunday, 17 September
2006 1:31 AM
> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com
>
*Subject:* Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently
requested
>
>
>
> Careful with compressed gases ...
they can create a lot of static
> electricity, unless they are designed
specifically not to.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
From: "Joe Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]net
> <mailto:jelandry%40sbcglobal.net>>
>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com
<mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>>
>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker]
OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
>
> > Hi Yuki:
>
>
> > My tech friends use cans of compressed gas to blow off the
accumulation,
> > rather than
> > risking sucking up the cpu
chip or fan off of it's zip socket with a
> > vacuum
> >
cleaner or poking around with a
> > toothpick.
> > I'm sure
it's not chlorofluorocarbon gas in today's environment and the
> >
gas
> > is said to be non ozone depleting.
> > DusterT II
Compressed Gas Air Duster, 10-oz. Can from Kensington.
> >
>
> Best regards
> > JOE
> >
> >
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yuki Taga"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]att.ne.jp
> <mailto:yukitaga%40tkh.att.ne.jp>>
>
> To: "Keith McCombs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com
> <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>>
>
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:18 AM
> > Subject: Re:
[amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested
> >
>
>
> >> Hi Keith,
> >>
> >> Anybody know
how to get a P4 fan/heatsink off?
> >>
> >> I put it
on (I built the box), and of course I'm aware of the two
> >>
primary levers that release it, but it's a partial release, not a
>
>> complete one, and I can't remember exactly how to get that thing
off,
> >> and I'm not into yanking stuff off the MB. ^_^
>
>>
> >> With a flashlight, I can see some accumulation
between the fins of
> >> the heat sink (beyond the fan) that have
to be taken care of. What
> >> has happened is that some dust has
actually formed a curtain over the
> >> top of some of the fins,
which of course is really cutting down on
> >> the airflow. I used
a toothpick to gently dislodge some of it, and
> >> then vacuumed.
But I think a more thorough job is called for. There
> >> are no
more curtains, but I can see dust.
> >>
> >> I have
been remiss about keeping my eye on the CPU temp. It's always
> >>
run a bit on the hot side (mid 40s), and lately it's been sneaking
>
>> higher, and I haven't paid enough attention to it. This little
bit
> >> of cleaning I did dropped the temp SIX DEGREES C, so no
minor deal.
> >>
> >> There are AB routines that will
take the temp up 20 from its ambient,
> >> so I need to be more
careful. The only thing I've got monitoring it
> >> is the old
Motherboard Monitor, which is not supported any longer. It
> >>
gives me board and CPU temps, however.
> >>
> >> So a
key question for me at this point would be, does a CPU just go,
>
>> or does it degrade, giving intermittent problems, because of
long
> >> term overheating? Given what I saw under the flashlight,
I've been
> >> slowly cooking this, and if a CPU degrades, rather
than just fails,
> >> that is most likely the seat of the
problem.
> >>
> >> It isn't like I never clean the
box, either. And I've put a vacuum
> >> on that CPU fan before.
I've always been tentative about that
> >> however, because it
actually reverses the fan blade action from it's
> >> normal
direction, which is to suck air in over the fins. I've also
> >>
blown compressed air in there, but tentatively there, too, because
>
>> compressed air can get pretty cold in a hurry (at least the
can
> >> does), and I don't know just what damage I might be doing
along with
> >> the good. Without a flashlight, it just wasn't too
obvious what was
> >> building up in there that the vacuum could
not pull out. Once
> >> dislodged though, a lot of stuff came out.
But there is more dust in
> >> there.
> >>
>
>> Maybe I'm better off replacing the CPU, which would have to be
pretty
> >> cheap now, if I could even find one (P4 2.53
GHz).
> >>
> >> Thanks all,
> >>
>
>> Yuki
> >>
> >> Saturday, September 16, 2006,
3:28:59 PM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> KM> Like Rik, I
too have had CPU overheating problems. I have a small
> >> KM>
utility that came with my computer that shows and records
> >>
temperatures.
> >> KM> If you have such, give it a try.
Recently I fixed my problems
> >> (computer
> >>
KM> shutting down completely during evening virus scans), by
>
cleaning the
> >> KM> heat sink and fan. I also used new grease
between the fan and cpu,
> >> but
> >> KM> only
because I had to remove the fan in order to get two years of
> >>
dust
> >> KM> bunnies out of it.
> >>
>
>> KM> BTW, right now I have my "red line" set for 70 C. Normally the
CPU
> >> runs
> >> KM> at 40 C, but during 1 hour
full virus scan it gets up to 55 C.
> >>
> >> KM>
Hope this helps.
> >> KM> -- Keith
> >>
>
>> KM> Rik Rasmussen wrote:
> >>>>
>
>>>> I have had two pc's running XP develop problems that ended up
being
> >>>> the fan
> >>>> on the CPU. In
one case it had stopped and the cpu overheated. In the
>
>>>> ohter
> >>>> case, the fan was apparently
running too slow to cool.
> >>>>
> >>>> In
both cases replacing the cpu fan fixed the problem.
>
>>>>
> >>>> Rik Rasmussen
>
>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
>>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Yuki
>
>>
> >>
> >>
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