Yes, that's right - handle is the wrong word and should be find, reveal, 
uncover, etc.  This ability is of particular interest to short-term traders.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: FFT


> MESA doesn't really have the ability to handle shorter cycles per 
> se ...
> 
> What it does have is the ability to pull cyclical information out of 
> shorter samples of data.
> 
> --- In [email protected], "wavemechanic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> No, I'm not saying that MESA will give better results than 
> a "better" FFT (is MESA a "better" FFT?).  That judgment cannot be 
> made until you leave the hypothetical and have a "better" FFT to 
> talk about.  Until then statistics help identify valid cycles and 
> MESA offers some advantages, including noise filtering and ability 
> to handle shorter cycles.  Good luck in your search.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Ton Sieverding 
>>   To: [email protected] 
>>   Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:24 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] FFT
>> 
>> 
>>   So what you are saying is - 'Beyond that one can go to MESA' - 
> that even after I should have found whatever modified version of 
> FFT, MESA will give me better results. In other words, why playing 
> with FFT if MESA is the right way to go. Is that your opinion or am 
> I missing something ?
>> 
>>   Ton
>> 
>> 
>>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>>     From: wavemechanic 
>>     To: [email protected] 
>>     Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:42 PM
>>     Subject: Re: [amibroker] FFT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     The restrictions associated with FFT that Ehlers mentions can 
> be found in any textbook.  As for better results with FFT, the next 
> step is to evaluate the cycles statistically (e.g., Bartels, F-
> ratio, chi-square, etc.).  Beyond that one can go to MESA and such.
>> 
>>     Bill
>>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>>       From: Ton Sieverding 
>>       To: [email protected] 
>>       Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:58 AM
>>       Subject: Re: [amibroker] FFT
>> 
>> 
>>       Frankly for me these are John Ehlers typical arguments to 
> use his MESA model in stead of FFT and has nothing to do with a 
> discussion. The question for me still remains if there really is no 
> way to get better results with FFT than the ones we have got ? If 
> Fourier analysis is correct and it's possible to simulate whatever 
> continues timeseries with a bunch of sinewaves and if MESA can give 
> me the correct harmonics, it should also be possible to obtain the 
> same results with a modified version of FFT. Question is how ?
>> 
>>       Ton Sieverding.
>> 
>>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>>         From: wavemechanic 
>>         To: AmiBroker, User 
>>         Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 1:27 AM
>>         Subject: Re: [amibroker] FFT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>         There is a discussion of FFT use and problems on Ehlers 
> MESA website:
>> 
>>         http://www.mesasoftware.com/fftcomparison.htm
>> 
>>         Bill
>> 
>>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>>           From: Ara Kaloustian 
>>           To: AB-Main 
>>           Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:16 PM
>>           Subject: [amibroker] FFT
>> 
>> 
>>           I was playing with AB's FFT code that TJ provided...
>> 
>>           The cycles seem to shift relative to the data, based on 
> how many data points are analyzed. This is of course expected.
>> 
>>           Question:
>> 
>>           Has anyone found a way to determine optimum number of 
> data points to analyze, and then determine the relevance of the 
> dominant cycle, or find any relevant cycles?
>> 
>>           Most of the time the dominant cycle seems to be the 
> largest one available. 
>> 
>>           Has anyone been able to use these cycles succesfully?
>> 
>>           Ara 
>> 
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