Hi Allan, Randy .... My frustration in these discussions is that an outsider 
could get the impression we should blame AFL for her complexity. But we all 
should know that if the same people complaining about AFL would start using 
another programming language, they will encounter exactly the same problems. So 
if you don't want to program, use a Wizard or ask somebody else to do the job. 
And in many cases you then will find the real problem. It's not the technical 
but the logical part that brings you the complexity ...

Regards, Ton.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: matrix10014 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:54 PM
  Subject: [amibroker] Re: once again, this AFL fights you every step of the 
way. Sorry, this is a badl


  Homer may be a bit "negative",and could stand to soften his 
  approach,but there is some truth to what he says.I spent an 
  inordinate amount of time attempting to learn to code in AFL(looping 
  and scaling in/out) and simply gave up.Would a well written AFL for 
  Dummies go a long way? Certainly.Do I expect it or demand it?
  Certainly not.With that said,I do hope that the Wizard develops to a 
  point where looping and scaling in/out of positions will be 
  available and the semi advanced users can then see the proper way to 
  code the more advanced functions...

  Allan

  --- In [email protected], "Randy Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  >
  > Dope? Not necessarily. Annoying? Definitely.
  > 
  > You CONSTANTLY criticize everything. The tone of your emails is 
  very confrontational. You're always telling us how much experience 
  you have, and how bad everything is. Why don't you just create your 
  own program and then everything will be exactly as you want it. 
  You've obviously got strong opinions on how things should be done, 
  so just do it and shut up. That way we won't have to read your 
  undeserved bashing of what everybody else considers to be a very 
  robust product with exceptional support.
  > 
  > If you can't be more civil, I'm on board with the other user that 
  would like to see you just go away.
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: Homar Simpson 
  > To: [email protected] 
  > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:57 PM
  > Subject: [amibroker] Re: once again, this AFL fights you every 
  step of the way. Sorry, this is a badl
  > 
  > 
  > Look, Im no dope. I can see that this is a powerful and fast 
  platform.
  > 
  > But every time I sit down to do the simplest thing, I spend hours
  > torturing over details of the language. This is not productive.
  > 
  > I know if I spent 10 hours a day for the next month on it, I'd 
  be an
  > expert too.
  > 
  > Was hoping not to have to do that
  > 
  > --- In [email protected], "zebdez" <robduff@> wrote:
  > >
  > > I find the documentation to read just fine. Programming in an 
  array 
  > > based system is definitely different than a "bar" based 
  system. In 
  > > AFL I have found that most variables are arrays unless you 
  program 
  > > your system to explicitly work bar-by-bar in a loop. I have 
  done both 
  > > with AmiBroker and find it to an excellent platform.
  > > 
  > > 
  > > --- In [email protected], "Homar Simpson" <x77777x@> 
  wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Maybe the poorly worded documentation, spotty examples, and 
  lousy
  > > > debugging and error messages have something to do with it, I 
  pity 
  > > non
  > > > programmers, they have no shot at all.
  > > > 
  > > > Sorry, but either I'm suffering from early alzheimers or 
  this 
  > > product
  > > > needs work.
  > > > 
  > > > Makes microsoft docs read like Shakespear. 
  > > > 
  > > > Just trying to figure out WHAT is an array, what isnt, whats 
  looped
  > > > ,and what isnt is more work than this is worth, By the time 
  I got 
  > > it
  > > > all straight, I'd have no strength to develop a system
  > > > 
  > > > I'm sure MANY have given up on AB for these reasons.
  > > > 
  > > > --- In [email protected], "dingo" <dingo@> wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > No, I'm not - its just usually the first thing you point 
  out to
  > > > everyone to
  > > > > prove it can't be your fault you're having trouble. 
  > > > > 
  > > > > I've been in the computer biz since 1964 and I initially 
  struggled
  > > > with the
  > > > > array concept but I got over the mental hurdle just and 
  you must. 
  > > > Then and
  > > > > only then will you be able to get comfortable with AFL. 
  You need 
  > > to
  > > > digest
  > > > > the help material and spend some time on it. You're not 
  going to 
  > > get
  > > > it by
  > > > > osmosis.
  > > > > 
  > > > > d
  > > > > 
  > > > > > -----Original Message-----
  > > > > > From: [email protected] 
  > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Homar 
  Simpson
  > > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:27 PM
  > > > > > To: [email protected]
  > > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: once again, this AFL fights you 
  > > > > > every step of the way. Sorry, this is a badl
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Why are you taking a survey?
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > --- In [email protected], "dingo" <dingo@> wrote:
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > You forgot to tell us how many years you've been 
  dealing with
  > > > > > computers...
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > > d 
  > > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > 
  > > > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between 
  users 
  > > only.
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