There was a discussion about this on AB-TS (?) a couple of months ago.  Bottom 
line, most can probably shorten the learning curve by first going through one 
of the DIY "how to do it" books on programming in C, C++, etc.  In a relatively 
few pages, the mysteries of loops, if-then-else, etc. will become clear to most 
readers, allowing them to concentrate on AFL code and coding trading/charting 
schemes.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "matrix10014" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:54 AM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: once again, this AFL fights you every step of the way. 
Sorry, this is a badl


> Homer may be a bit "negative",and could stand to soften his 
> approach,but there is some truth to what he says.I spent an 
> inordinate amount of time attempting to learn to code in AFL(looping 
> and scaling in/out) and simply gave up.Would a well written AFL for 
> Dummies go a long way? Certainly.Do I expect it or demand it?
> Certainly not.With that said,I do hope that the Wizard develops to a 
> point where looping and scaling in/out of positions will be 
> available and the semi advanced users can then see the proper way to 
> code the more advanced functions...
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Randy Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Dope?  Not necessarily.  Annoying?  Definitely.
>> 
>> You CONSTANTLY criticize everything.  The tone of your emails is 
> very confrontational.  You're always telling us how much experience 
> you have, and how bad everything is.  Why don't you just create your 
> own program and then everything will be exactly as you want it.  
> You've obviously got strong opinions on how things should be done, 
> so just do it and shut up.  That way we won't have to read your 
> undeserved bashing of what everybody else considers to be a very 
> robust product with exceptional support.
>> 
>> If you can't be more civil, I'm on board with the other user that 
> would like to see you just go away.
>> 
>> 
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Homar Simpson 
>>   To: [email protected] 
>>   Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:57 PM
>>   Subject: [amibroker] Re: once again, this AFL fights you every 
> step of the way. Sorry, this is a badl
>> 
>> 
>>   Look, Im no dope. I can see that this is a powerful and fast 
> platform.
>> 
>>   But every time I sit down to do the simplest thing, I spend hours
>>   torturing over details of the language. This is not productive.
>> 
>>   I know if I spent 10 hours a day for the next month on it, I'd 
> be an
>>   expert too.
>> 
>>   Was hoping not to have to do that
>> 
>>   --- In [email protected], "zebdez" <robduff@> wrote:
>>   >
>>   > I find the documentation to read just fine. Programming in an 
> array 
>>   > based system is definitely different than a "bar" based 
> system. In 
>>   > AFL I have found that most variables are arrays unless you 
> program 
>>   > your system to explicitly work bar-by-bar in a loop. I have 
> done both 
>>   > with AmiBroker and find it to an excellent platform.
>>   > 
>>   > 
>>   > --- In [email protected], "Homar Simpson" <x77777x@> 
> wrote:
>>   > >
>>   > > Maybe the poorly worded documentation, spotty examples, and 
> lousy
>>   > > debugging and error messages have something to do with it, I 
> pity 
>>   > non
>>   > > programmers, they have no shot at all.
>>   > > 
>>   > > Sorry, but either I'm suffering from early alzheimers or 
> this 
>>   > product
>>   > > needs work.
>>   > > 
>>   > > Makes microsoft docs read like Shakespear. 
>>   > > 
>>   > > Just trying to figure out WHAT is an array, what isnt, whats 
> looped
>>   > > ,and what isnt is more work than this is worth, By the time 
> I got 
>>   > it
>>   > > all straight, I'd have no strength to develop a system
>>   > > 
>>   > > I'm sure MANY have given up on AB for these reasons.
>>   > > 
>>   > > --- In [email protected], "dingo" <dingo@> wrote:
>>   > > >
>>   > > > No, I'm not - its just usually the first thing you point 
> out to
>>   > > everyone to
>>   > > > prove it can't be your fault you're having trouble. 
>>   > > > 
>>   > > > I've been in the computer biz since 1964 and I initially 
> struggled
>>   > > with the
>>   > > > array concept but I got over the mental hurdle just and 
> you must. 
>>   > > Then and
>>   > > > only then will you be able to get comfortable with AFL. 
> You need 
>>   > to
>>   > > digest
>>   > > > the help material and spend some time on it. You're not 
> going to 
>>   > get
>>   > > it by
>>   > > > osmosis.
>>   > > > 
>>   > > > d
>>   > > > 
>>   > > > > -----Original Message-----
>>   > > > > From: [email protected] 
>>   > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Homar 
> Simpson
>>   > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:27 PM
>>   > > > > To: [email protected]
>>   > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: once again, this AFL fights you 
>>   > > > > every step of the way. Sorry, this is a badl
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > Why are you taking a survey?
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > --- In [email protected], "dingo" <dingo@> wrote:
>>   > > > > >
>>   > > > > > You forgot to tell us how many years you've been 
> dealing with
>>   > > > > computers...
>>   > > > > > 
>>   > > > > > d 
>>   > > > > > 
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > Please note that this group is for discussion between 
> users 
>>   > only.
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail 
> directly to 
>>   > > > > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always 
> check 
>>   > DEVLOG:
>>   > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > For other support material please check also:
>>   > > > > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > > 
>>   > > > >
>>   > > >
>>   > >
>>   >
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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