Hi

thank you Tomasz for implementing range bars.Since they are   in the beta 
status please allow me  some remarks:

Range bars  are  "meant to be" constant range bars. In order to make it robust  
one has to set  the range, and that range has to be predicted from the future 
and we know that this is impossible to be 100 % accurate. You will never know 
exact range needed  for bars to be  constant ( unsplitted or whatever one calls 
it ). That also applies for ticks data.

I think the  misunderstanding comes from the fact that  Tomasz has to 
convert/translate TIME bars into RANGE bars. Better will be to think in therms 
in coverting  pure PRICE range to CONSTANT range. Sort of Renko philosophy or 
Tick bars.

In the end why not let the user choose to unsplitt or split  range bars // of 
course if not too much code intensive//.

Sincerely

Drazen

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tomasz Janeczko 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: 23. srpanj 2007 10:11
  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Range Bars - was: Re: AmiBroker 4.97.0 BETA released


  Hello,

  > This 
  > helps spot patterns such as for example 3 Range bars up then 1 down 
  > then again 3 Range bars up 1 down. 

  The point is that you can not say for sure that the pattern really occurred
  if range of 4 happened inside one 1-minute bar. You don't know if it was
  4 up bars and then 1 down. It could be 2 up bars, 1 down and 3 up.
  Or 1 up, 1 down and 4 up. Or thousands of other combinations.
  You don't know. That's the point.
  You can not rely trading on something that is based on wild guesses and those
  guesses are mostly wrong.

  More info in my previous response that you have removed from the reply:
  http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker/message/113212

  That's why I say:
  use *tick data* to create range bars or use ranges that are larger than
  any 1-minute movement. The same advice you will find in any software
  that support range bars.

  Best regards,
  Tomasz Janeczko
  amibroker.com


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "c776162" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:40 AM
  Subject: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker 4.97.0 BETA released


  > --- In [email protected], "Tomasz Janeczko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  > 
  > Hello Tomasz,
  > 
  >              I did read the Readme before I posted and understand your 
  > logic, however most people who want to use Range bars want then to 
  > filter out movements betwean ranges, ie they are not interested in all 
  > the zig-zags, only the zig-zags where the range has been reached. This 
  > helps spot patterns such as for example 3 Range bars up then 1 down 
  > then again 3 Range bars up 1 down. 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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