Pat,

its only the begining...infact if one had a website that compares features of 
all products such charting, backtesting, list of builtin functions, 
mutitimeframe support, automatic trade execution, more than anything - SUPPORT, 
support for various free and paid  data sources,  its easy to recognise that 
Amibroker is the best.

coding a strategy - it probably should be called "Easiest Language".

now can we see your email displayed as AmibrokerV50 ?? -)

Cheers,Padhu

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: metastockv10 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:52 AM
  Subject: [amibroker] Re: test


  Hi Tomasz,
  thank you for that link.
  I just can't belive it. Making my research (based on opinions of other
  users - I am not experienced enough to have my own opinion) it
  appeared that MS is one of the best AT programe. 
  Since "system tester" is found as a one of the most important features
  in that kind of programme, how aplication which has a tester not
  working propely can be admitted as one of the best.
  I also can't believe that they haven't improved it yet. It seems like
  users noticed that few version of MS ago.
  That is a big POINT for you - they can't do what you did. Congratulations.

  Thanks again for your explanations, it was very helpful for me.
  Best regards 
  pat

  --- In [email protected], "Tomasz Janeczko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > > so, can I say, that Metastock will tell how much you can make but not
  > > how much you have to invest in it?
  > 
  > No. You will get results that have nothing common with reality.
  > 
  > Use www.google.com and you will easily find why MS tester is flawed. 
  > One of hits: http://searchwarp.com/swa18259.htm
  > (This is for version 8 but it did not change in version 10 as well)
  > 
  > Best regards,
  > Tomasz Janeczko
  > amibroker.com
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "metastockv10" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: <[email protected]>
  > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 7:42 AM
  > Subject: [amibroker] Re: test
  > 
  > 
  > > Thank you so much for this explanation Tomasz,
  > > so, can I say, that Metastock will tell how much you can make but not
  > > how much you have to invest in it?
  > > best regards and once again thank you for your patience.
  > > pat
  > > 
  > > --- In [email protected], "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@> wrote:
  > >>
  > >> Metastock tester is NOT doing portfolio backtest but a set of N
  > > individual single-symbol tests without reference to each other.
  > >> Like you were having N-individual accounts and N-times the funds. So
  > > if you say test on 500 stocks it assumes you have 500x the 
  > >> money.
  > >> Simply not realistic.
  > >> 
  > >> AmiBroker does the right thing. It simulates common account and
  > > trades all securities from single account with trades on one 
  > >> security potentially
  > >> influencing others by decreasing/increasing account funds as in real
  > > life.
  > >> 
  > >> Best regards,
  > >> Tomasz Janeczko
  > >> amibroker.com
  > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
  > >> From: "metastockv10" <metastockv10@>
  > >> To: <[email protected]>
  > >> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:43 PM
  > >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: test
  > >> 
  > >> 
  > >> > Tomasz,
  > >> > I have read this chapter about portfolio based backtesting. It
  is said
  > >> > that portfolio is your equity+ sum of open positions. Basicly i
  think
  > >> > i got it how it works in AB
  > >> > Could you tell me what they mean in Metastock by portfolio -
  beacause
  > >> > it is said that during testing you can opitimize your portfolio. Do
  > >> > they mean something else by that?
  > >> > And how it can work without positioning function - It is going
  to buy
  > >> > one kind of security for your whole money?
  > >> > I am sorry that I am asking you about MS - I know you can just
  don't
  > >> > care...but it is hard to find all those things from their
  manual and
  > >> > as far as i am concerned you are preety oriented in MS also.
  > >> > I just need to catch some basic differences about MS and AB.
  > >> > Thanks in advance for your help
  > >> > best regards pat
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> > --- In [email protected], "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@>
  wrote:
  > >> >>
  > >> >> Hello,
  > >> >>
  > >> >> You can use simple EMA cross over for example
  > >> >>
  > >> >> Buy = Cross( Close, MA( C, 50 ) );
  > >> >> Sell = Cross( MA( C, 50 ), Close );
  > >> >>
  > >> >>
  > >> >> IN "MS" speek it would be
  > >> >> Cross( Close, Mov( C, 50, "S" ) )
  > >> >>
  > >> >> Cross( Mov( C, 50, "S" ), Close )
  > >> >>
  > >> >>
  > >> >> But frankly speaking the comparision you are trying to do makes
  > > no sense
  > >> >> for one fact: MS is not true porfolio-level backtester. They allow
  > >> > to run on basket,
  > >> >> but it is not true portfolio-level backtest with one shared
  equity,
  > >> > without dynamic
  > >> >> positionscoring/rotation and scaling. There is simply no
  comparision
  > >> > between AB and MS.
  > >> >>
  > >> >> Also to see real differences in speed you would need to run
  serious
  > >> > backtest
  > >> >> on for example more than 100000 intraday bars (MS can't do
  that - it
  > >> > is limited to 65000)
  > >> >> or on entire US market (8000+ symbols - again MS can't do that
  - its
  > >> > database is limited to 6000 symbols).
  > >> >>
  > >> >> Best regards,
  > >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
  > >> >> amibroker.com
  > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
  > >> >> From: "metastockv10" <metastockv10@>
  > >> >> To: <[email protected]>
  > >> >> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:39 PM
  > >> >> Subject: [amibroker] test
  > >> >>
  > >> >>
  > >> >> > Hi,
  > >> >> > does any one can tell me if I can find somewhere, examles of
  > > systems,
  > >> >> > which i can use both in Amibroker and Metastock. What I would
  > > like to
  > >> >> > do is to insert this system to Amibroker and Metastock and run
  > > it on
  > >> >> > both of theme. Then I would like to compere the results. It
  > > should be
  > >> >> > something that will take to test about one minute - it can be
  > >> >> > something very simple becose then you can't notice the
  > > differences. I
  > >> >> > know I should write something like that by my self but I can't
  > > and I
  > >> >> > am runnig out of time, so there is no chance i will learn it so
  > > fast.
  > >> >> > I just need those results. ANy one can help me with that? I
  can see
  > >> >> > that testing speed is a hot topic today here because of new
  > > update of
  > >> >> > Amibroker.
  > >> >> > Best Regards
  > >> >> > Pat
  > >> >> >
  > >> >> >
  > >> >> >
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