Lloyd I agree with you and Brian, however, I am not so sure that Tomasz could actually write it in such a way that a novice/ beginner could digest. Not to take anything away from the man he is brilliant in design and at what he does best.
With all that said there is a need... I bought Howards last book and "someday" hope to use it when I can write a simple afl and his new book, I hope that I am wrong... (Howard correct me please) is not as much about writing SIMPLE afl's as the basics in trading. Time wasted, Oh yah tons. My fault... Oh yah. I learn different from the vast majority, however when it clicks I do very very well with things. Someday... I do spend an hour at minimum a day reading and not neccesarily understanding or could I for that matter implement what I have read. I WILL GET IT but I would pay $120.00 for the very basics in afl in a minute. In the mean time I use the index and search in the user guide and do think it could be organized a little better. (the search that is. index is great for keywords however the examples can be too much for a beginner? I feel like an idiot but I know that there are others in my shoes) Just the same It is one hell of a program if I and others who can't use it to it's full potential believe that it's still better than a canned product. Thanks to all who give of their time for us beginners. > > > Brian, > I totally agree with you on the level of frustration that develops in > trying to figure out some of these things that should be simple and > intuitive. For example, I'm having problems adding volume to the title > line. I'll be the first to admit my intellectual limitations-but I've > done this easily with other software. I'm quite satisfied with AB's > capability, but it's very frustrating when someone says,"have you read > the manual?" The manual is like a very thourougly inclusive dictionary > whose words are random and not in alphabetical order. The information > is there, but how do you find it? A reference was made to VarSelect > and I tried to find it in the search and index of the manual and > function list-I couldn't find any reference to it. > > I, also would like to see a presentation using first principles. My > understanding is that Howard will be completing an entry level book > this spring as soon as he completes some obligations this month. > > I certainly appreciate those who have helped me and certainly have no > plans to give up-it's become a challenge now. It's probably more my > fault in getting in over my head. Thanks for the opportunity to let > off a little steam. Lloyd > > --- In [email protected], "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote: > > > > Graham, > > > > Sorry - I sent my reply to your PM by mistake. > > > > I think these discussions help Tomasz and the community in general so > > here is my viewpoint. > > > > I agree with your suggestion - it is the sensible thing to do and a > > lot are doing just that ("God helps those who help themselves" > > and "if you want something done do it your self") - you are correct. > > > > I wonder, though, how many thousands of hours you have put into > > your 'keeps' and whether the majority, who work full time, are able > > to match that? > > > > However, I also agree with the others that we need a good AFL book > > and IMO Tomasz is the man to write it - yes, even if he has to stop > > development to do it - take a sabbatical and get out the feathered > > pen Tomasz (I don't think Howard is doing an AFL book - although his > > books go a long way towards it). > > > > I actually drew a temporary line in the sand at starting my own mini- > > database of clippings. > > > > Reasons: > > > > AB is not my first and last love. > > It has taken an inordinate amount of my time to learn and I still > > haven't got to the bottom of it. > > I have to draw the line somewhere since it is my intention to be a > > professional trader and not a professional amibrokerist. > > > > As well as that I am a conceptual learner so I want to learn how to > > do it from first principle and not just memorize it like a parrot. > > > > Code help is great after you have exhuasted all personal efforts. > > > > That is what training should do - teach us how to do it from first > > princples rather than keeping a compendium of everyone elses past > > solutions. > > > > As well as that I have a philosophical objection to 1000's of people > > having to labour away in private over their own AB training manuals > > (a very inefficient use of precious HUMAN resources - "life is a > > short warm moment, death is along cold rest" - Pink Floyd). > > > > Also I like books. > > They represent 10 -20 years of the authors live (the best part of it) > > packed into a considered, ordered and edited presentation, all for > > the bargain basement price of around $100 bucks. > > > > Given the choice I would rather have a Tomasz 500 page AFL book than > > anyone's 5000 page compendium of forum clips etc. > > > > brian_z > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Graham <kavemanperth@> wrote: > > > > > > Why not do what I have done over the years, any useful tips from > > posts > > > are pasted to my own library > > > > > > There is a wealth of information in the various sources, it is just > > a > > > matter of reading and working through the tons of examples. eg AB > > > library, AB yahoo groups file libraries, AB yahoo groups posts > > (search > > > for different topics/keywords), User Knowledge base, AB Knowledge > > > base, AB members area, and not to forget the AB help files (that > > > contain a great search facility), and probably a few more I cannot > > > recall from top of the head > > > > > > -- > > > Cheers > > > Graham Kav > > > AFL Writing Service > > > http://www.aflwriting.com > > > > > > On 08/02/2008, brian_z111 <brian_z111@> wrote: > > > > Some people do better with a book because of the formal structured > > > > approach. I agree with you on the wealth of resources though. We > > > > shouldn't overlook the forum either. Look at the answer at > > VarSelect > > > > (var1, var2,n) etc - the forum virtually wrote a chapter on > > demand - > > > > you can't beat that. > > > > > > > > Graham's and Tomasz's forum answers, over the years, are a book in > > > > themselves as well (thanks to all who continually answer code > > > > questions in the forum - a book would be nice to have but we > > would be > > > > lost without you all). > > > > > > > > brian_z > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Grant Noble <gruntus@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Did you bother to read the manual or look at the AFL library? > > Those > > > > are huge resources in > > > > > themselves. More than enough there to begin anyone with coding. > > > > When I was starting I was grateful > > > > > that I didn't need to spend money on books. Neither do you.. > > > > > > > > > > normanjade wrote: > > > > > > I dont get it. Where are we supposed to learn the language? > > There > > > > > > doesn't seem to be any good resources out there. Anybody know > > > > where to > > > > > > go? I can only find very basic info. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
