I find that indicators optimized for equity work just fine especially when 
combined with experienced based discretionary input in re patterns, volume, 
money management, etc.  Fast and simple and does as well as the backtesting 
stuff. 

Bill
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Howard B 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [amibroker] Leading indicators


  Hi Kethek --

  You are describing a search for a special case of an entry method that leads 
to profitable trades -- indicators.

  There are many ways to enter a trade: indicators, seasonality, patterns, 
cycles, and so forth.  Due to the uncertainty and variability in the price 
series, none work all the time.  Some do not work at all.

  To focus on indicators --
  There are two ways to investigate indicators.
  One -- Select an indicator to work with.  Try various combinations of logic 
and parameter values to select the condition that will cause a Buy signal.  
Sell a short time later.  If your entry was a good one, a short holding period 
should be profitable.  If you are swing trading using end-of-day data, Sell = 
BarsSince(Buy) >=2; will test the efficiency of the entry.
  Two -- Select good entry points.  You can do this in AmiBroker by using the 
Ref function and looking ahead.  Pick entries that you would like to take.  
These will be different for different trading styles -- swing versus 
trend-following, etc.  Then look for indicators that correlate well with those 
desired entries -- again working with logic rules and parameter values.

  Most, but not all, indicators have lag that causes them to be late.  If an 
indicator is late, it might be improved by making it react faster -- shortening 
the lookback lengths and so forth.  Making it faster is likely to increase the 
number of false signals -- whipsaws.  

  Another method of improving the efficiency of a system is taking the entry as 
soon as possible after receiving the data that gives the signal.  If you are 
using end-of-day data, try buying on the close of the bar that gives the 
signal.  Settradedelays(0,0,0,0); BuyPrice = Close;

  Or, try indicators that do not have much lag.  Examples include some 
statistical measures (z-score), the adaptive moving average (dema), the 
predicted point of a regression line or curve.

  Best of luck.
  Please report back to us all on what you find.

  Thanks,
  Howard
  www.quantitativetradingsystems.com


  On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Kethek Ogleng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


    Dear Thomasz and Brian,

    I have explored indicators that I am aware of, but I have not found single 
leading indicator. Eventhough I hv changed the parameters, , the indicators 
were all lagged. The fastest indicator that I am aware of is Heikin-Ashi, but 
still it is not leading indicator. In the best of your knowledge and 
experience, what are leading indicators available for AB users (or at least 
faster that Heikin-Ashi)? Logically (for non-IT guy like me), the leading 
indicator must contain price linear regression and volume components. 
    I am aware that if someone had it, he or she must be a multibillioner and 
wouldnt share with us. Ha ha ha 

    Regards,
    Kethek


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