Tomasz, Using PDF with the UKB as you suggest below is my plan now.
OS X has PDF built into the core applications, so additional Adobe PDF software is not needed in most cases on a Mac. However, since most of your customers are running Windows, thank you for the clarifications on their behalf. Best regards, Dennis On Apr 24, 2008, at 5:02 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote: > Hello, > > As I said many times in the past - you can publish in PDF on the UKB > as well, > just upload the PDF and give the article a short abstract plus link > and that's it. > > UKB is based on Wordpress that is de-facto standard for "web > log" (aka "blog"), > it is different from your desktop publishing tools because Wordpress > is a *web* application, not standalone application. > The same difference as Yahoo Charts compared with AmiBroker. > > The "PDF" relies on output that is rendered in commercial software > from one and only vendor, i.e. Adobe. This allows them more strict > rendering rules and more flexibility because > there is only one renderer (adobe reader) > than HTML that must be rendered in dozens of different browsers (IE, > Firefox, Opera, Netfront, mobile phone browsers, > Lynx, etc, etc) > > As far as Windows is considered, you can print to PDF from every > application too. > Just install the PDF printer driver. There are free ones based on > GNUScript. > For example DoroPDF. > > Once you install, you simply PRINT the document from any application > (just select the PDF driver as your "printer"). > > Best regards, > Tomasz Janeczko > amibroker.com > >>> >>> --- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Brian, >>>> >>>> I guess I have a significant advantage in that I work exclusively >>> in >>>> OS X (except for AmiBroker running in a virtual PC XP machine). >>>> PDF is built into everything. Printing to PDF files is standard. >>> The >>>> Apple iWork Pages'08 word processor I use can export >>>> as .pdf, .doc, .rtfd, or .txt. It also has auto TOC generation. >>>> >>>> OSX 10.5 comes with 'Preview' a default viewer for most image >>> formats >>>> and PDF is the standard. It also lets me mark up PDFs, merge >>>> different PDF files and rearrange pages in PDF documents. >>>> >>>> My default browser (Safari) opens PDF files directly in the >>> browser >>>> without going through a download (it is just in the Browser >>> cache). >>>> My Google searches turn up PDF files all the time. I just click >>> on >>>> them and my search terms are highlighted in the displayed page, so >>>> Google must be able to find them in the .pdf docs. I think it is >>>> because they have a PDF to HTML converter built into the Google >>>> engine, but I prefer to display the fully formated PDFs. >>>> >>>> My system eats and breaths the PDF format, and I don't have any >>> Adobe >>>> products involved. >>>> >>>> It is no wonder that I want to do ALL my work with this tool set. >>>> Believe me, it was quite painful for me to try working in >>> WordPress >>>> after being spoiled with these tools. It felt like doing >>> carpentry >>>> with rocks for hammers. >>>> >>>> I don't know what is best for others, but I do know what is good >>> for >>>> me when I see it. >>>> >>>> I hope you find the tools that fit you perfectly. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:16 PM, brian_z111 wrote: >>>>> Dennis, >>>>> >>>>> Everything about the UKB was new to me, including net publishing, >>> so >>>>> I experimented with a range of options, PDF being one. >>>>> >>>>> I had a liking for PDF, since I could control the formatting more >>> and >>>>> also I personally quite like to download a PDF - it's a freebie >>> and >>>>> also they build to form a searchable desktop database (which I >>> have >>>>> had success with - since trading info is so thinly spread and >>> often >>>>> recycled I find it efficient to get some quick hits via searching >>>>> ebooks). >>>>> >>>>> I did some homework and had no trouble finding reliable free word >>> to >>>>> PDF convertors (they act as a psuedo printer). >>>>> >>>>> I have some links from that searching if you need them (I wouldn't >>>>> have got them all though). >>>>> >>>>> I personally thought that posting a summary of the content, as the >>>>> UKB page, with the copy attached as a PDF link was a good option >>> (IMO >>>>> the summary should contain all of the keywords needed for portals, >>>>> like google, to index the page (web indexers don't search through >>>>> attached PDF's). >>>>> >>>>> (the negative is that visitors won't open an attachment as often >>> as >>>>> they will read a webpage). >>>>> >>>>> I was keen on adding a TOC to my PDF's and that is where it came >>>>> unstuck. >>>>> >>>>> I tried the best of the PDF clones - my pick was: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.nitropdf.com/ >>>>> >>>>> It claims to be capable of indexing the PDF but I couldn't get it >>> to >>>>> work. >>>>> >>>>> In the end I was faced with buying some Adobe software but I >>> didn't >>>>> want the price tag, or the maintenance, just for a one off use >>> (the >>>>> UKB). >>>>> >>>>> From there, I changed over to using Word, with a TOC (I left a >>> couple >>>>> of examples of that approach behind FTR). >>>>> >>>>> In the end, as I gained some experience, I changed around to >>>>> preferring the pages ( the only limit there is my skill levels >>> and/or >>>>> the arm wrestling with WordPress etc e.g. an HTML index of the >>>>> content of a page is easily achievable in any everyday HTML editor >>>>> and probably WordPress if I could be bothered to learn it). >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, I am heading in a different direction as my next post will >>>>> show. >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> >>>>> brian_z >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> As far as the UKB postings, I have thought about this also. My >>>>>> approach will be to generate my material as a stand alone PDF >>>>>> document and then provide a link to the PDF or other files that >>>>> are >>>>>> uploaded. The PDF will be formatted for printability. Then some >>>>>> screenshots or text as a summary only will be put on the UKB for >>>>>> direct reading. I did some of that with my first post. I don't >>>>> know >>>>>> how pervasive it has become, but my web browser (Safari) displays >>>>> PDF >>>>>> files as easily as HTML files. I am sure that this will >>>>> increasingly >>>>>> become the standard capability over time. If the vehicle of the >>>>> UKB >>>>>> changes in the future, the PDF files will not be affected. I >>> also >>>>>> have a lot more freedom in the presentation layout and can work >>>>>> WYSIWYG with my Pages word processor locally (like I did with my >>>>>> Flexible Parameters document that was emailed to this list a >>> short >>>>>> time back). >>>>>> >>>>>> While I would have preferred to have something a bit easier to >>>>> work >>>>>> with, like the easy way AFLs can be uploaded to the AFL Library >>>>> (zero >>>>>> learning curve), I believe the organizational structure of the >>> UKB >>>>> is >>>>>> the best place we have right now to place pointers to information >>>>> so >>>>>> that people can find it or refer to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Dennis Brown >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The K-ratio file is on this site because the UKB was offline >>> when I >>>>>> first posted it - it is not a political statement. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I do post more, on this and related subjects, I am now >>> unlikely >>>>> to >>>>>> use the UKB as the vehicle - that isn't a political statement >>>>> either. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am just considering my own creative well being and like all >>>>> artists >>>>>> I prefer having control of my canvas/workspace. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am likely to continue occassional posting to the >>>>>> Data/DatabaseManagement categories at the UKB and move my >>> original >>>>>> stats work elsewhere (I haven't made a final decision yet). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- In [email protected], "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm having a break from writing for the UKB. >>>>>> >>>>>> When Tomasz started it I told him I would write X amount in the >>>>> period >>>>>> up to the end of year 2007 - it was my payback to him for >>>>> unbelievable >>>>>> support. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I went beyond that but now I am not certain that I want to >>>>> continue. >>>>>> >>>>>> I like the coummunity spirit and internet compact, where we share >>>>> free >>>>>> stuff with each other, but I find that publishing requires >>> ongoing >>>>>> commitment to keeping up with additional software (if only I >>> could >>>>>> publish hassle free). >>>>>> >>>>>> Although I feel the UKB is a success it is a problem for me that >>>>> more >>>>>> authors haven't come forward to sustain the opening effort. >>>>>> >>>>>> IMO the WordPress software, structure of the site, need to sign a >>>>> legal >>>>>> for etc are holding the site back, and turning away authors, but >>>>> AFAIK >>>>>> Tomasz is unlikely to make any changes there. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am looking at other software/sites where I might set up a NFP >>>>> site on >>>>>> my own, or as a joint open effort with other AB users, as I do >>> have >>>>>> more stuff (some I have started). >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, I dropped a dictionary on my PC tower and killed it (some >>>>> UKB >>>>>> articles on it were not backed up - if it is a hard drive issue >>>>> they >>>>>> may not be recovered) so it will be a while before I publish >>>>> anything >>>>>> anywhere. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to Tomasz, Herman, Fred and Dennis for UKB collaboration, >>>>>> especially Herman, who is a one in a million guy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to the forum for seeing me through my forum/publishing >>>>>> adoslescence. >>>>>> >>>>>> brian_z >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >>>>> >>>>> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >>>>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >>>>> >>>>> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >>>>> >>>>> For other support material please check also: >>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >>>>> Yahoo! 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