I agree totally
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dingo Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2008 1:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE No, as in you expect someone to do this for nothing. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com] On Behalf Of cstrader > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > > Sheesh, as in "buck up and pay?" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dingo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:dingo%40hargray.com> com> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:35 PM > Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > > > > Sheeesh... > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com] On Behalf Of cstrader > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:32 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > >> > >> Well, I'm not sure why anyone needs to pay for stuff that's > >> available free. > >> For instance, CSI is a great vendor, but then Yahoo gets the > >> data from CSI > >> and publishes it for free. What's really needed is the list > >> of tickers, > >> however, and perhaps that can only be done efficiently by > >> paying for it. > >> > >> For me, it's not so bad that there's a ticker that no longer > >> exists -- I > >> just check to see what the last download date was -- if it's > >> in the past > >> then I assume it's dead. > >> > >> However, keeping up with new issues is more difficult. I > >> don't understand > >> how to scrape the Yahoo site for a list of, say all of the > >> current ETFs, or > >> all of the stocks currently trading on the AMEX. Can anyone > >> help me with > >> that? > >> > >> I was using Swindle's list, but now that seems to be gone... > >> so I need to > >> hunt for a new list. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "dingo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:dingo%40hargray.com> com> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com> > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:23 PM > >> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > >> > >> > >> >I haven't investigated any thing other than Yahoo. If there > >> is a weg site > >> > that lists the tickers, etc without having a subscription, > >> etc. then I > >> > could > >> > prolly scrape it. > >> > > >> > As designed the program scrapes the data and presents it to > >> you in a grid > >> > organized by sector/industry or index or etf then you can > >> select those > >> > that > >> > you want to delete and THEN it will create the database. > >> > > >> > d > >> > > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com] On Behalf Of marketmonk777 > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:35 PM > >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > >> >> > >> >> I would be interested in this program. But all I am > >> looking for is a > >> >> program that creates a list of symbols. What would be > >> nice is for it > >> >> to "compare" a current download to a previous download > and have a > >> >> report generated showing what was added and what is missing. > >> >> > >> >> That way I can decide which stocks to add to my own database. > >> >> > >> >> The benefit to me is that I don't have to strip out > >> symbols from the > >> >> pink sheets or OTC BB. > >> >> > >> >> Amiquote does a great job of downloading the data and > >> don't see a need > >> >> to replace that functionality. > >> >> > >> >> As for the price .. that would depend on the > functionality that you > >> >> decide to put into it. Will it work with just Yahoo? > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> MM > >> >> > >> >> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "dingo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > There is not a separate list of added / deleted stocks - > >> Yahoo just > >> >> updates > >> >> > their site on the fly. You would need to build a new list > >> >> and compare it > >> >> > with those in the database. There is a trail of Yahoo > pages that > >> >> contains > >> >> > what they consider to be the stocks avail in the US - > grouped by > >> >> sector / > >> >> > industry. These pages have to be scraped to get the > tickers and > >> >> names. Then > >> >> > a problem arises when you go to down load quotes for the > >> entire list > >> >> that > >> >> > you've built by scraping - Yahoo doesn't have quotes for > >> >> all of them and > >> >> > some have even had their tickers changed but the pages > >> haven't been > >> >> updated > >> >> > yet. Plus, you also get pink sheet stocks and other > >> "stuff". The > >> >> indexes, > >> >> > etfs, mutual funds, etc are all on their own pages and > >> >> would have to be > >> >> > scraped also. > >> >> > > >> >> > I've done some of this in a program I wrote several years > >> >> ago - it even > >> >> > updates the quotes and can be scheduled via the > >> scheduler. It will > >> >> retireve > >> >> > historical, current and fundamental data. What it > doesn't do at > >> >> present is > >> >> > detect those stocks that have no quotes or that have > >> ceased trading > >> >> - those > >> >> > that give an error msg when you try to use Amiquote. It > >> >> also does NOT > >> >> > update the database - it just builds them and updates > >> the quotes. I > >> >> stopped > >> >> > working on it because I thought TJ was going to > address this and > >> >> decided not > >> >> > put any more of my time into it. > >> >> > > >> >> > I can be talked into finishing it but I won't do it > for free - I > >> >> done quite > >> >> > a few free programs for AB and won't do that any more. > >> >> > > >> >> > Soooo - what's a price that people are willing to pay > and and how > >> >> many would > >> >> > be interested. If theres not that much interest then I > >> >> won't bother. > >> >> > > >> >> > d > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > _____ > >> >> > > >> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com] > >> >> On Behalf > >> >> > Of cstrader > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:20 PM > >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Hi Ronald, > >> >> > > >> >> > You say: > >> >> > > >> >> > ... DOWNLOAD ALL OF THE SYMBOLS THAT "YAHOO" has ADDED in > >> >> their "YAHOO" > >> >> > database of STOCK SYMBOLS AND PRICES, VOL ,etc. > >> >> > > >> >> > DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT "ADDED" LIST IS LOCATED? > >> >> > > >> >> > If YAHOO discontinues carrying a symbol, then their NEW > >> >> CURRENT list of > >> >> > symbols will...NOT... > >> >> > > >> >> > DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT "NEW CURRENT" LIST IS LOCATED? > >> AND WHAT IS > >> >> THE "NEW > >> >> > CURRENT" LIST. > >> >> > > >> >> > I'M CURIOUS IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO DOWNLOAD THE ENTIRE LIST OF > >> >> YAHOO STOCKS > >> >> > SOMEHOW. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > From: Ronald Davis <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:27 PM > >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > >> >> > > >> >> > Cs, he HAS been doing it for free. > >> >> > > >> >> > AB does NOT KNOW which symbols are current. > >> >> > > >> >> > That is why there exists a need DOWNLOAD ALL OF THE > SYMBOLS THAT > >> >> "YAHOO" has > >> >> > ADDED in their "YAHOO" database of STOCK SYMBOLS AND > PRICES, VOL > >> >> ,etc. > >> >> > > >> >> > If YAHOO discontinues carrying a symbol, then their NEW > >> >> CURRENT list of > >> >> > symbols will , NOT have it anymore, and it will have > been purged > >> >> from your > >> >> > AB database of SYMBOLS in the AB US STOCKS FOLDER. Ron D > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > From: cstrader <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:03 PM > >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > >> >> > > >> >> > Aha, I thought Jim was doing this for free. But in > any case, how > >> >> does AB > >> >> > determine which stocks are current and should be on the > >> >> list? Yahoo has > >> >> > almost 40,000 tickers; who determines which ones go > into the US > >> >> STOCK SYMBOL > >> >> > list? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > From: Ronald <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Davis > >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:17 PM > >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > >> >> > > >> >> > This origional post was an inquiry asking when Jim Swindle > >> >> would place a > >> >> > LATER than >JAN/4/2008 UPDATED LIST OF US STOCK SYMBOLS on > >> >> his UPDATE > >> >> > website. > >> >> > > >> >> > Jim was paid to create this updating UPDATING software, so > >> >> he is not at > >> >> > liberty to simply give it away to Amibroker users. > >> >> > > >> >> > Yes, I would love to help JIM, but I can't think of > >> >> anything I can do to > >> >> > assist writing code FOR a NEW version of this > updating software. > >> >> > I do recall that Dingo and Jim discussed the possibility > >> of a Joint > >> >> effort > >> >> > once, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WENT ANYWHERE. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > HERE IS MORE INFORMATION>>Jim Swindle's US STOCKS > >> DATABASE UPDATE > >> >> SITE is > >> >> > simply an updated list of the > >> >> > most recent SYMBOLS in the US STOCKS FOLDER within Amibroker. > >> >> > When you run a download from this site, it installs the > >> MORE RECENT > >> >> list of > >> >> > the symbols over the OLDER list of symbols. > >> >> > This process of UPDATING the symbols must be followed by a > >> >> HISTORICAL > >> >> > download of all of the TICKER data for as far back as > you want to > >> >> have in > >> >> > your database. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ============================================================== > >> >> ============== > >> >> > =========== > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > From: cstrader <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:46 PM > >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > >> >> > > >> >> > Perhaps we should try to help Jim out a bit. What > >> features would we > >> >> want to > >> >> > see in such a stocks database? > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > From: Ronald <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Davis > >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:21 AM > >> >> > Subject: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE > >> >> > > >> >> > Has anyone heard from Jim regarding when a later > update will be > >> >> available? > >> >> > > >> >> > This link to Jim Swindle's US STOCKS DATABASE site > shows that it > >> >> was last > >> >> > udated on Jan 4, 2008. > >> >> > > >> >> > I also recall that Jim was planning to create a method > >> so that each > >> >> of us > >> >> > could run a LATEST TICKER symbol update an any time. > >> >> > > >> >> > We all are grateful to Jim for having done this. Ron D > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> <http://www.icc- <http://www.icc-az.com/icc-az/default.html?http%3A//www.icc-az> az.com/icc-az/default.html?http%3A//www.icc-az > >> >> .com/icc-az/> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> >> > Checked by AVG. > >> >> > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - > Release Date: > >> >> 6/3/2008 > >> >> > 7:00 AM > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------ > >> >> > >> >> Please note that this group is for discussion between > users only. > >> >> > >> >> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to > >> >> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com > >> >> > >> >> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always > check DEVLOG: > >> >> http://www.amibroke <http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/> r.com/devlog/ > >> >> > >> >> For other support material please check also: > >> >> http://www.amibroke <http://www.amibroker.com/support.html> r.com/support.html > >> >> Yahoo! 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