If I could jump in here, too.....Many years ago when I first started using
Amibroker, I wrestled with this very same issue (I was using QP). Tomasz
showed me how to get the quotes from the external database to the local
database, basically using the example from the thread. There is one other
thing that may not be obvious though. Once you move your data to the local
data base, any updates or maintenance the external database vendor does to
the external database, will not be carried over to the local data base. I
believe the suggestion was made to periodically refresh the local database
by deleting it and recreating it from the external database, to incorporate
the updates.  Just for the record, "Maintenance" would be updating existing
quotes/symbols when errors are found, not adding new data at the end of day.


It may also be beneficial to add that piece of info to the help file. I
think that documenting that fact that after switching to a Local Database,
data must be copied to it, and that the Local Database is "immune" to
updates in the External Data Base after it is copied, would give a good
perspective on how Local Databases work to users who are new at working with
External/Local Databases.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Allan Wade 

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ken Close
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Broker.master glitch perhaps Was: RE: [amibroker] More on Database
Structure and Local Storage

 

Thank you.

 

>From the page:

You may also choose to store the quotes retrieved from the external source
to AmiBroker's own database for faster retrieval in subsequent accesses. If
you want to do this, you should switch the 'Local data storage' setting to
'Enabled'.

 

In spite of great proofreading by Yuki (I miss her posts), I still missed
seeing any mention of needing to do a scan of the database source in order
to transfer or write the data into the local database.  A suggestion for the
future would be to add your statement number 2 below should at some time be
added to the html guide page (although I know it is not a very high priority
issue).

 

Would you have a suggestion on how I could preserve previously calculated
values of an ordinal ranking indicator, right now thought to be saved in the
OI field, and still have a method of updating both the daily price data and
only the newly calculated ordinal ranking information based on the new price
data?  Maybe I need to turn away from this approach (OI field saving) and
look to do an automatic import of an external file where I save the ordinal
ranking data.  What do you think?

 

Thanks.  I will give this a rest for awhile and continue programming.

 

Ken

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Tomasz Janeczko
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [amibroker] More on Database Structure and Local Storage

Hello,

 

I belive that the document in the help file is pretty complete. Actually it
was proof read by Yuki :-) (thanks!)

As I wrote you can not WRITE to FastTrack database. You can however switch
back and forth from local <-> FT.

 

I won't go into repeating what is in the guide, instead will give you just
the procedure you may use:

1. Start of the day

2. Set "Data source" to "FastTrack". Run ANY AA scan (can be one liner:
buy=0;) on all symbols

(that will copy files to AB local db)

3. Switch "Data source" to "(local database)". Now you have write access,
you can write your data to OI field.

4. End of the day - turn back to "FastTrack" (your changes to OpenInterest
will be lost at that moment).


Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Ken Close <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:28 PM

Subject: RE: [amibroker] More on Database Structure and Local Storage

 

Hello Tomasz:

 

Of course you are right, again, but the page in help/guide is still
incomplete in order to impart a good understanding of how this all works.

 

How does one use local database (say with FastTrack data) and still get
nightly updates installed so everything works right?

 

What does local database really mean as everyone has to get their data from
some external source?  

 

I clicked on the DATA SOURCE (vs my previously just checking the Enable
local storage button), and everything seemed the same.  I could go between
symbols in the tree, and things seemed to plot the same.  There was no long
disk activity suggesting that AB was writing data from the FT data files to
the local AB data files.  So how does that work?  

 

My critical question:   Am I able to use FastTrack data, locally, and write
custom values to OI that will be saved, AND STILL, somehow, update nightly
FastTrack data?  Can you say it is possible, and if so how are nightly
updates accomplished? 

 

This is all critical to a custom application (as we have been discussing in
other messages).

 

Thanks for continuing to provide support on this issue.

 

Ken

 


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Tomasz Janeczko
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [amibroker] More on Database Structure and Local Storage

Hello,

 

To switch to LOCAL database, you just go to 

File->Database Settings and change "Data SOURCE" to "(local database)".

 

But that means that you are NOT using FastTrack as data source.

 

You can *not* have both, 

i.e. using FastTrack as a data source and having database WRITE ability,
because

access to FastTrack database is READ ONLY. 

The only exceptions are COMPOSITES (and any symbol marked as "use local
database only"

in the Information window) - they are NOT present in external database and 

are always saved locally. 

 

It was explained in the docs I pointed previously:

http://www.amibroker.com/guide/h_workspace.html

 


Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Ken Close <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:46 PM

Subject: [amibroker] More on Database Structure and Local Storage

 

Can someone explain to me how I make the FastTrack database a local one?  

 

Background: I have had a FT db for years, with local storage disabled?  I
want to write to the OI field and preserve the written data. I checked
"Enable Local Storage" but nothing different happened.

 

Next, I tried to scan all symbols with a simple formula (I remembered having
to do that years ago with a TC2000 database that came on a CD--I thought the
same kind of step was needed.).   Amibroker got hung on a single symbol and
I had to End Program.  AB would lock if I even clicked on this same symbol.

 

Next, I created a new FastTrack database with a different name and copied
over the appropriate files to the new DB folder. I enabled Local Storage
from the start.  All looked good.  Except that writes to the OI field in the
new DB would not save.  I tried the scan all symbols trick again, and again
it hung on the same symbol, certainly suggesting my FastTrack data itself is
corrupt on that one symbol. (Special updates with the FastTrack data
designed to correct problems did not seem to change anything.)

 

My question is how do I get the FastTrack database to be local and to allow
writes to the OI field to stick?  

My second question (as I assume I have to have the data in the Amibroker
folders and not just in the FastTrack folders for the AB DB to be local), is
how do I update the nightly downloads of new data which FastTrack will stick
in their own file/folder?

 

Thomasz, can you help?

 

Thanks,

 

Ken

 

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