I didn't know you were an AFL consultant.

> I hope it is a win win rather than completely altruistic. Firstly, >I get to 
> implement a wider range of requirements which would help my >own skill while 
> the receipiant get a freebie. Secondly, I hope that >people who use the free 
> service will some day use my professional >service when the need arises 
> because they like what I provide.

Well this is the new business model we are working with ... I love it ... good 
luck with it.

Competition is healthy and drives us to perfect our product services.

You are a good mentor .... you are from the old school of strict 
self-discipline ... self-discipline stands behind all extreme success ... 
behind my quirky AB persona there is a good deal of self-discipline operating 
im my life.



--- In [email protected], "Paul Ho" <paul.t...@...> wrote:
>
> There will some major differences between Paid consultancy and free afl. I am 
> also a paid consultant. A paid consultant would not disclose a client's work 
> to any third party or use it himself. It is part of the confidentiality 
> agreement. In free afl consulting, I own the information I provide and I'm 
> free to disclose or use it in any way I see fit. Secondly, I will only 
> provide this service as time allows and will be more likely be slower in 
> responding. There is no deadline and no promises. Thirdly, I might not 
> implement the requirements in full if I already have a similar solution I 
> have implemented before or if two customers have similar requirements. I 
> might only implement the combined requirement.
> I hope it is a win win rather than completely altruistic. Firstly, I get to 
> implement a wider range of requirements which would help my own skill while 
> the receipiant get a freebie. Secondly, I hope that people who use the free 
> service will some day use my professional service when the need arises 
> because they like what I provide.
> I often get requests privately so I thought I'll throw it into the open to 
> see if there are wider interests.
> Thanks for the endorsement Brian.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm thinking about starting a free afl consulting service to bridge >the 
> > > gap between simple questions and answers on this board and a >full blown 
> > > professional paid consultancy. If you have a well defined >problem, and 
> > > you dont want the full confidentiality of a >professional consulting 
> > > service. You could consider this.
> > 
> > That would be awesome .... incredibly altruistic.... people will be beating 
> > a path to your door. In my experience <5% on the net are givers at any 
> > point in time (most are too busy with jobs/family etc).
> > 
> > You would put Graham out of business though!
> > 
> > As an aside .... I am predicting that within a decade an open source 
> > stockmarket program will be in the top 5 list ... I think I know which one 
> > it will be too.
> > 
> > You can't beat the power of open community effort ... the verdict is 
> > already in.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Paul Ho" <paul.tsho@> wrote:
> > >
> > > A few points to consider
> > > 1. Use the code wizard as your teacher when you're new
> > > 2. In our country, we spend 12 years of our lives in basic education, and 
> > > yet in afl learning, we expect success in weeks. Give yourself time.
> > > 3. Ask specific questions, but be prepared to do most of the work. Think 
> > > about the amount of work you want someone else to do for you in order to 
> > > help, is that in proportion to the efforts you put in? If you ask earnest 
> > > questions, you will get earnest answers.
> > > 4. I'm thinking about starting a free afl consulting service to bridge 
> > > the gap between simple questions and answers on this board and a full 
> > > blown professional paid consultancy. If you have a well defined problem, 
> > > and you dont want the full confidentiality of a professional consulting 
> > > service. You could consider this.
> > > Paul.
> > > --- In [email protected], "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Louies88,
> > > > 
> > > > We took the discussion a lot further than you required ... I hope we 
> > > > didn't confuse you.
> > > > 
> > > > I have been involved in ongoing discussions over training issues, in 
> > > > the forum, and with Tomasz, ever since I joined the forum (others have 
> > > > been involved since before my time).
> > > > 
> > > > As you can see, some of us are a little passionate over the subject.
> > > > 
> > > > Tomasz has introduced a lot of 'training' features over the last 3 
> > > > years.
> > > > 
> > > > A few important points we forgot to mention:
> > > > 
> > > > - most of the people who are intent on becoming experts with AFL take 
> > > > the posts from this board, as emails, and save them in a threaded 
> > > > emailer to build up a referenced database ... many of them have years 
> > > > of categorized threads.
> > > > 
> > > > - re an AFL book ..... Tomasz has actually written an AFL book ... it 
> > > > comprises everything under AmiBroker Formula Language in the help 
> > > > manual. The fact that people like me are arguing with Tomsasz about the 
> > > > fine print creates the impression that 'The Book' isn't good ... that 
> > > > isn't true ... it is quite good and if you keep going back to it AND 
> > > > gradually learn it, especially the functions, in detail, you will learn 
> > > > an awful lot about programming in AFL i.e. the function reference forms 
> > > > the bulk of 'The Book'.
> > > > 
> > > > - everyone specializes ... no two traders agree on anything very often 
> > > > ..... if and when you want to specialize there are experts in the forum 
> > > > on a wide range of subjects (AFL, stats for traders, otpimization, 
> > > > data, autotrading etc).
> > > > 
> > > > - IMO you have to give yourself permission not to learn it all and 
> > > > don't feel intimidated because you are not proficient in all of the 
> > > > fields that a trader can specialize in.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > No one is always right.
> > > > 
> > > > After the discussion I haven't chnaged my position very much, if at 
> > > > all, and Tomasz probably feels exactly the same way ... I did learn 
> > > > some more about AFL though.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "louies88" <Louies88@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think Amibroker is great, especially its AFL. Although I don't know 
> > > > > enough about it to claim that it's superior than most other scripting 
> > > > > languages out there, I know for a fact that this is one of the best. 
> > > > > That also begs the question of how a person w/ virtually no 
> > > > > programming background can get started w/ AFL. I followed this forum 
> > > > > long enough to note that some of you in here are excellent coders. 
> > > > > The codes that I often see are flawless and eloquent, which then 
> > > > > makes me think how long does it take a coding newbie such as myself 
> > > > > to attain that coding level.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I look at it this way. Coding a computer language is pretty similar 
> > > > > to learning a foreign language. I remember how my first English class 
> > > > > went. I started out by learning a few basic vocabulary words, then 
> > > > > use some of it in the form of a noun, then a verb, finally an object. 
> > > > > Sentence structures, or in computer language better known as syntax, 
> > > > > govern if a sentence is grammatically correct or if it's not. With 
> > > > > that in mind, I also started out by looking at the AFL Library in 
> > > > > Amibroker. I downloaded all of the functions in the hope of building 
> > > > > myself an Amibroker vocabulary and started to put some of the basic 
> > > > > vocabulary words together to make a "sentence." 
> > > > > 
> > > > > However, since there isn't any kind of document FORMALLY teaching the 
> > > > > ABC of coding in Amibroker, I'm left w/ a question how does Amibroker 
> > > > > syntax work? Some of the experienced coders here often compare AFL 
> > > > > syntax to that of C++. But for a person w/ neither background in AFL 
> > > > > or C++ or any other computer langugae, the question remains: How do I 
> > > > > get start? Where's the square one?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Anybody w/ such experience is highly appreciated if he/she's willing 
> > > > > to shed a light on this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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