On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Ted,
>
> AFL is like C++ only in the sense that C++ is like C. All of what you have
> helpfully described exists in C, without need of any of the object oriented
> constructs of C++.
>
>
True enough.

Studying C++ would probably confuse a non programmer. If opting to study
> another language, I suspect that C would be the better choice.
>
>
C would certainly be much simpler as an introduction but good luck finding a
decent introductory book talking only about C.  I haven't seen one in what
seems like eons.  I have several books on C, but wouldn't recommend any of
them, particularly for non programmers.  The books I like best for an
introductory course in programming happen to be written to introduce C++.
Although I use Java for often these days than C++ (for web applications), I
have yet to find a good introductory text that uses it.  All the really good
Java books I have found assume the reader already has a solid programming
background.

A day or two ago, I found something on the AmiBroker site, I think referring
to advanced use of AmiBroker in back testing, that includes some discussion
of, and a very simplistic description of, object oriented programming.  I
have not examined AFL enough to know if it includes support for defining
classes, or if the extent of object oriented programming is limited to the
use of predefined objects, but either way, I think exposure to the object
oriented constructs of C++ would help in understanding that material,
particularly if a well written and well designed (from the perspective of
instructional systems design) book like that written by Koenig and Moo is
used.

On a side note, on reading that object oriented material, I began to wonder
if one could use the back testing object to support meta-analyses, or if
that object is implemented as a singleton.  What I mean is this.  Suppose
you have a function of several parameters that implements a trading system
you want to test (say one that chooses between trend following and mean
reversion based on the directional index being above or below some
threshold, represented in on of the parameters you want to optimize and some
measure of volatility being above or below some other threshold, in another
of the parameters you want to optimize).  Then suppose you want to do apply
a walk forward optimization, applying the result of a given optimization on
some sample to an out of sample period immediately following.  My question
is, can you make use of a second (or higher) level of optimzation where, for
example, the parameters to optimize are the respective lengths of the in
sample and out of sample periods?  And if the answer to that is yes, can one
do the walk-forward procedure on that level too, so the algorithm one ends
up with can adapt to whatever change may happen in the underlying model
system as new data arrives.  I know exactly how I'd do that in C++ using a
blend of object oriented program with generic programming and a bit of
template metaprogramming thrown in.  But can I do it in AFL?

Cheers,

Ted


> And yes, using IIF would be more efficient than a loop.
>
> Mike
>
> --- In [email protected] <amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>, Ted Byers
> <r.ted.by...@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:15 PM, bistrader <bistra...@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > i is element of array; i++ is counter for "for" statement. Loop goes
> thru
> > > all values. Better, in my opinion, is iff as defined below.
> > >
> > > Not quite.
> >
> > If you're going to write a program or script, you have to be more precise
> > than that. 'i' is not an element of the array. Rather it is an index
> > referring to an element of the array (the precise concept of what 'i' is
> > depends on what programming language you're using, but what I have given
> > here is good enough for someone beginning his exposure to programming
> using
> > AFL). 'i++' is not a counter. Rather it is a statement applying the unary
> > operator '++' to the index 'i'. It is correct, though, that it loops
> > through all the elements of the array.
> >
> > A for loop in AFL (and in C++ and Java and a number of related languages)
> > has a structure you need to understand. That is "for (initialization code
> ;
> > test ; end code)". You can see that in action in your example. "i = 0"
> > creates and initializes your index variable. "i < *BarCount"* verifies
> that
> > 'i' always has a value less than 'BarCount'. If this test fails (returns
> > false) the expression 'Close[i]' would refer to an element that is not in
> > the array. This test, therefore, ensures that the loop operates only on
> > elements that really exist in the array. The end code 'i++' increments
> the
> > value of 'i' by one after all the work in the loop is complete, and
> > basically restarts the loop with the incremented value of 'i' (so once it
> is
> > finished with one element in the array it can work on the next). This
> keeps
> > going until 'i' has the same value as 'BarCount - 1' . At the end of the
> > loop where 'i' has that value, it is given the value 'BarCount', and the
> > test fails. At that point, execution resums on the next executable
> > statement after that body of the loop.
> >
> > I could be wrong, but my impression on a first examination of AFL is that
> a
> > large proportion of the syntax and semantics of AFL is borrowed from C++.
> > If 'learner' is unfamiliar with programming, any introductory text on C++
> > may be helpful in understanding more fully AFL. Having had some
> experience
> > teaching software engineering, I would not regard the documentation
> provided
> > with AmiBroker or in the books related to it as a suitable introduction
> to
> > programming using AFL (rather, those seem more appropriate as a reference
> > for someone who is already a reasonably proficient programmer). If the
> > developers of AmiBroker are inclined to accept advice from someone like
> me,
> > I'd suggest an extra book that would take the description of AFL,
> provided
> > in the Introduction to AmiBroker, and expand it into a book that could
> serve
> > as an introductory programming book that happens to use AFL (using one of
> > Stroustrup's books on C++, or Koenig and Moo's book on C++ as a model).
> >
> > I won't comment on the relative benefit of the function 'iff' as I have
> not
> > tested it or executed benchmarks using it.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Ted
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected] <amibroker%40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> 40yahoogroups.com>, "Ton
>
> > > Sieverding" <ton.sieverding@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What about :
> > > >
> > > > color = iif(C>0,colorgreen,colorred);
> > > >
> > > > Regards, Ton.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Joe Landry
> > > > To: [email protected] <amibroker%40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [amibroker] please read this formula and tell what it
> is?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is this a test?
> > > > Joe
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: learner
> > > > To: [email protected] <amibroker%40yahoogroups.com><amibroker%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:12 AM
> > > > Subject: [amibroker] please read this formula and tell what it is?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > for( i = 0; i < BarCount; i++ )
> > > > {
> > > > if( Close[ i ] > Open[ i ] ) // CORRECT
> > > > Color[ i ] = colorGreen;
> > > > else
> > > > Color[ i ] = colorRed;
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > please read above formula and tell me what is i and i++
> > > > what it does exactly?
> > > > thankyou for support
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > R.E.(Ted) Byers, Ph.D.,Ed.D.
> > t...@...
>
> > CTO
> > Merchant Services Corp.
> > 350 Harry Walker Parkway North, Suite 8
> > Newmarket, Ontario
> > L3Y 8L3
> >
>
>  
>



-- 
R.E.(Ted) Byers, Ph.D.,Ed.D.
[email protected]
CTO
Merchant Services Corp.
350 Harry Walker Parkway North, Suite 8
Newmarket, Ontario
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