Microsoft says that "productivity" programs (I assume this means Quicken, Money, etc.) running under XP require the higher versions of Windows 7 (Professional and Ultimate) which permit an XP mode program to be downloaded and installed. Just a little bit of unbundling in order to help the bottom line.
----- Original Message ----- From: Lionel Issen To: [email protected] Sent: July 16, 2010 8:41 PM Subject: RE: [amibroker] OT: One Windows 7 oddity Windows 7 has more problems than this. Programs that ran under Windows XP don't run as well under Win 7 Internet Explorer, Quicken, and a few others ran quite well under XP, under Win 7 these programs are often unstable. All these programs that are running under Win7 are updated versions. Lionel From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Yuki Taga Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:16 PM To: Patrick Dumain Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: One Windows 7 oddity Patrick, some more information about this oddity: The flashing problem is apparently caused because Windows wants to open a popup box ("Show hidden icons") *above* the triangle. But when the taskbar is at the top of the screen, there isn't screen space for that popup in its "normal" position above the triangle, so it starts that annoying flashing. Pulling the taskbar to double width (something I don't care to do) allows enough screen space for that popup to open in its "normal" position, so it behaves in the expected manner with no flashing. Another interesting thing about this: I use a program called Active Window Manager for a number of tasks. When I chose to have it put an additional taskbar on monitor number 2, the triangle on that additional taskbar points up, as if the taskbar were on the bottom, even though it is on the top, not down like it does on the main monitor taskbar. In this case -- and this is very counterintuitive -- the popup (on monitor 2) opens *below* the triangle (even though it opens above the triangle when the primary taskbar is on the bottom of the screen and the triangle is pointing up). But in this case, no flashing because there is room for the popup. (Because something is causing the popup to open in the "wrong" position, which is actually the best position when the taskbar is on top of the screen.) However, there is no icon box with customize displayed when the triangle on this second taskbar is clicked, the icons all appear in the system tray (for about 1 second) until either one is selected or no action is taken, at which time they disappear again. As you say, none of this is anything one can't live with. It's just interesting to observe the different behaviors, and particularly to wonder why MS doesn't seem to have gotten it exactly right for a somewhat popular configuration change -- putting the taskbar at the top of the screen a la Mac. Yuki Thursday, July 15, 2010, 5:15:21 AM, you wrote: YT> Hi Patrick, YT> Ah, I forgot to mention that! ^_^ I've had the taskbar at the top of YT> the screen forever (old Apple fan), so I forget that most do not. YT> Yeah, I can live with that, too. Just wondered if it was YT> reproducible behavior. Thanks. YT> Yuki YT> Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 11:47:44 PM, you wrote: YT> PD> Hello, YT> PD> YT> PD> Same behavior, but only if the taskbar is at the top of the screen. YT> PD> YT> PD> Strange, but I can live with . YT> PD> YT> PD> Patrick YT> PD> YT> PD> YT> PD> De : [email protected] YT> PD> [mailto:[email protected]] De la part YT> PD> de Yuki Taga YT> PD> Envoyé : mercredi 14 juillet 2010 10:41 YT> PD> À : [email protected] YT> PD> Objet : [amibroker] OT: One Windows 7 oddity YT> PD> YT> PD> YT> PD> For the most part, I'm very pleased with 7. But there is one oddity YT> PD> that I'd like to know if anyone else experiences. YT> PD> Hover the pointer over the "Show hidden icons" arrow in the system YT> PD> tray. I find two different behaviors. Imagine a horizontal line YT> PD> perfectly bisecting the arrow (and the box around it that is revealed YT> PD> when you hover). If the cursor is as much as one pixel above that YT> PD> line, even though it is on the arrow and in the box, there is a YT> PD> flashing of the "Show hidden icons" title, and the click is not 100 YT> PD> percent sure -- sometimes it has to be repeated. But if the pointer YT> PD> is just one pixel below that imaginary center line, there is no YT> PD> flashing at all, and the click works 100 percent. YT> PD> To be sure, my experience is that you can be well below the arrow, YT> PD> even below the revealed box, and make this work just fine. You can YT> PD> hover at the very bottom of the taskbar under the arrow (but within YT> PD> the horizontal confines of that revealed box), and it works like a YT> PD> charm. You can also be way over the arrow (and well above the box) YT> PD> and you will get the flashing and some hit or miss clicking results. YT> PD> For me, a click only about one pixel above the bottom of the taskbar, YT> PD> but within the horizontal confines of that revealed box, will show YT> PD> hidden icon. All that is necessary is to be in an area where the box YT> PD> illuminates. But if you are one pixel above the center of that area YT> PD> (dead over the arrow, but just above an imaginary center), you get YT> PD> the flashing. YT> PD> Anyone else? YT> PD> It seems that the true target area for displaying hidden tray icons YT> PD> is a box beginning one pixel below the center of that area, extending YT> PD> down to the very first pixel at the bottom of the taskbar within the YT> PD> horizontal bounds. Hard to believe this passed muster. YT> PD> Best, YT>
