Brett, I just get nervous about "overextending" my 32V transmitters.  I have
4 at the Collins Radio Center and no spare transformers in the event one of
them breaks down.  So you can see why I am hesitant about switching the
toggle on the rear to 700 volts.

Take care and continue to experiment/homebrew.

Great to see someone is doing what others only talk about!!


Dave, W3ST
Secretary to the Collins Radio Association
Publisher of the Collins Journal
www.collinsra.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Gazdzinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:39 PM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] 4D32 rig testing


> Don,
> I was in qso with Jay, n2wwl today, and we were talking about
> the 32v3, and the voltage it runs at, Jay runs his on the low voltage
> position,
> about 600 volts on the plates.
> I run mine on the 700 volt tap, 180 to 200 ma.
>
> The panel meter says 800 volts high voltage, but I put my
> DMM on it and was very surprised to find 940 volts on the plates.
>
> I have been running them that way for 15 years with the same tubes
> in them, and used to use them quite a lot.
>
> I get 100 watts out, and 350 watts pep.
> I have solid stated the power supplies, which explains the high
> voltage.
>
> I think, as long as you don't exceed the plate dissipation,
> you are likely ok with most tubes.
>
> Brett
> N2DTS
>
> >
> >
> >
> > >Collins runs them at over 700 volts in class C plate
> > >modulated service (32V series).
> > >If they don't arc over, and you don't exceed the plate dissipation,
> > >what would be the problem?
> > >
> >
> > That's a good point.  I recall an article pre-WW2 in QST
> > which described
> > getting high peak audio power from modulator tubes by running
> > unusually high
> > voltage on them, but staying within the rated dissipation
> > rating.  A point
> > was made that for example, the 807 is rated for a maximum of
> > 600 volts plate
> > modulated.  That means the peak voltage would be at  least
> > 1200 volts, and
> > that doesn't hurt them, and is still within factory specified
> > ratings.  So
> > for intermittent service, you should be able to run as much
> > as 1200 DC volts
> > on an 807.  I think the limit on plate modulated voltage
> > would be the point
> > where arcovers would begin.
> >
> > However, I do recall using a quad of p-p parallel 2A3's in my
> > audio driver.
> > I didn't have a proper driver transformer at the time, so I
> > ran them @ 400
> > volts/30 m.a. each tube.  They are rated at 300 volts/40 m.a.
> > maximum in the
> > RCA manual.  That way I could get plenty of peak driving
> > voltage to the
> > class B grids, despite having a driver transformer with too
> > much stepdown,
> > but with exactly the same plate dissipation as per RCA
> > recommended ratings.
> > They worked great, and drove the modulator tubes with very little
> > distortion.  But I noticed that within a  few months, the
> > 2A3's would get
> > weak.  I went through a couple of sets that way.  Finally, I
> > obtained a
> > proper driver transformer with the proper turns ratio, and
> > slowered the
> > plate voltage back to 300v, and changed the bias so that each
> > tube would
> > draw 40 m.a., and now I have had the same set of 2A3's for
> > almost 10 years,
> > and they still test good.  Maybe just  a coincidence, but at
> > the current
> > price of a new 2A3, I don't feel like trying to find out.
> >
> > My conclusion is that some tubes may not take overvoltage
> > very well, while
> > others will not be harmed, and the only way to find out which
> > ones is to try
> > them and see.  If your tubes seem to be short lived, go back to the
> > recommended parameters.
> >
> > -K4KYV
> >
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