This is what I have so for guys, and Larry I quoted you as well hope it is OK http://wa5bxo.shacknet.nu/XFMR_losses/audio_transformers1.htm
Now Bacon, You know I can't spell. If any thing is right on that page it is because of built in spell checking. I hate getting old I'm all upside down, my nose is runnin' and my feet's are smellin' John, WA5BXO

