Good info, John and something to think about. Shrader (Electronic Communications 3rd Edition) seems to think a shunt is doable. However, there is no mention in the test of how the shunt (coil of wire) would be affected by radiation. A shunt would certainly limit the current available to the thermocouple, but would the results be contaminated by external RF? I think you're right, it would be a risky setup.

I want to measure the antenna current from a broadcast transmitter (1 KW) into a dummy load, of course. I realize a 5 amp thermocouple meter should suffice, but I wanted a little headroom in the event of a load disaster that could send the current soaring and destroy the meter. Your suggestion of a sampling device would certainly do the trick and probably with much better accuracy, however, I want to set it up as it would have been in a broadcast station situation. Since I'll be running much less than 1000 watts I'm sure, after rethinking it, the 5 amp RF meter will do fine.

Thanks for the info and comments.

Rick/K5IZ


John Lawson wrote:

I think there might be a couple of things to consider in such a scenario.

One is - for most 'regular' meter shunts, they are simply a very low-ohm calibrated power resistor. And generally the drop accross them at full-rated current (50 amps, say) is measured in the millivolt range: 25 - 20 - 100 - 300 etc.

RF Ameters, on the other hand, use a thermocouple element which is heated by a small resistance wire through which the RF passes - there is no 'drop' measured electrically, rather the temperature rise of the resistance element is used - so the 'cuurent' meter is actually reading a few MVDC coming from the TC junction in the "shunt" (which it's not).

If you insert another actual resistance-type shunt around a thermocouple unit, it would have to still drop enough RF to provide the full-scale EMF accross the heating wire. So if the the meter is 5 Arf full-scale, your shunt must drop a 5th at 25 Arf.


(HEY!!! Just what are you doing on the air that need 25 fargin' AMPS of antenna current...?) ;}


The other thing I'm wondering is - what effect all that Stuff (in the feedline, basically) is going to have on SWR - production of harmonics and spurs - etc.

I'd be tempted to just build a simple pickup like the MFJ Balanced-line ammeter has, and use a DC opamp driver to provide full-scale readings in the ammeter of your choice.


  Just my 200 millidollar...


Cheers

John  KB6SCO



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