First of all, Warren, you make a very convincing argument. I would vote directors in that truly represent the hobby. I recall many years ago, the former Atlantic Director (Hugh Thurbill??) and I had a frank discussion on AM at a local hamfest he attended. He was not very receptive to my support of AM. Years later I met him again and he had mellowed a bit. I am glad that he no longer represents me. The climate has changed somewhat but we must join the ARRL to vote those out that do not represent us fairly and equitably.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Elly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] IARU - VP ARRL contact by WD5BZO


Hello Dave...

been a member of arrl from before i got licensed...now 41 years...
I can't stand up for an organization that through my life has done nothing more than
build hurtle after hurtle for the growth and future of the hobby.
From the BPL disaster (can you just imagine how much of our money was wasted on that?) to the missed opportunities to expose amateur radio to the national media in the 2004 hurricanes, to the sad litany of licensing 'reform' over four decades, and the half-baked, thinly disguised attempt through IARU to once again put the vintage community (30 percent of their membership by some surveys)under the boot, you'll never sell us that standing up for the league is in our best interest. Too bad we can't just file a class action suit, but first we'd have to figure out what planet these people are on...in order to serve the papers
73, Warren W1GUD
On Nov 25, 2007, at 8:09 AM, David Knepper wrote:

In all due respect, I keep wondering if any of these individuals who keep criticizing the ARRL actually are members.

It's like those who are not registered to vote. They always have something to say about their government, their leaders, etc. Discussion that are to be left in the bar room.

I just bet that the ARRL simply ignores - I would - the comments by those who are not members.

Join the ARRL and stand up for the League. Regardless of their policies over the years, it is still our voice for amateur radio.

Please respond off line so as not clutter up this fine mail list. The server needs a rest!

Where is Glenn Baxter, K1MAN, when you need him!  Oops!

Dave, W3ST - W3CRA

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Sawyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" <[email protected]
>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] IARU - VP ARRL contact by WD5BZO


Pete you know that is 100% horse hockey!! They are pumping sunshine up your skirt just like they did to WD5BZO. I read both of those posts and you know
it! This is a simple fact that the ARRgghhL screwed the pooch big  time.
Sorry, your excuses aren't good enough to pacify the masses. The damage is
done and the bone-sauces up in Newington are responsible!
Mike(y)
W3SLK
----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Markavage
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] IARU - VP ARRL contact by WD5BZO


If you haven't read the e-mail dialog between Larry, W8ER, and Joel (ARRL
President), W5ZN, on November 13 and 17, you probably should.  It  might
shed some additional light on the items presented in the WD5BZO  audio.

Go to:
http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=12262.380
And it's Reply 396.
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