John,

I don't get the 250TH to load worth a hoot!  The plate voltage is fine.  
The drive checks out good back to the pair of 807s.  I saw the evidence 
of the drive at the grid clip.

The 100THs had been set with the specified mA on the speech amp.  I 
don't like the PA mA reading so I am hesitant to leave it on while I go 
hunt around the backside to look at all three plates.

It has sat for over a year + now, as I have had shoulder surgery and 
trying to move it around even WITH a "moving man" dolly underneath is no 
simple task.  [The wife has the whole area with wall to wall 
carpeting.].  There is bare concrete underneath that.

Bob - N0DGN

John Coleman wrote:
> Do they show color on the plates or gas type ionization color when in use?  
> If they show gas ionization color when in use then they defiantly have air in 
> them and could be caused by overheating due to some malfunction.  Maybe they 
> have many more hours on them than you know about.  If the plates or just a 
> little red but no gas ionization then the tubes or probably OK.  Make sure 
> the grid drive stays up at the recommended level and one way to tell if a 
> tube is losing its conduction is to check the grid drive.  If the grid drive 
> falls off considerably when the plate supply is energized then the tube is 
> getting weak.  A small amount of grid current fall is normal.  The 
> neutralization must be very good to make this check else capacitive feedback 
> will affect your findings.  I have used 250ths for some time and have never 
> seen them loose vacuum from any normal use.  I did crack one once taking the 
> grid connector off.  That was a little heartbreak.  Especially when Geoff 
> W5OMR was te
>  lling me to be careful. HIHI 
> 73
> John, WA5BXO
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:07 AM
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> Subject: [AMRadio] 100TH and 250TH advice and or comment
>
> Question:
>
> I have noticed that the 100THs and 250THS that are in their original
> boxes, either not used at all, or maybe use for less than an hour to
> test them, seem to be doing fine.
>
> Their envelopes are crystal clear an can not see any sort of defect.
>
> Then the ones that are in one of the two BC-610s that has the hours on
> it, even though it last performed flawlessly, now appears to have gone
> gassy with some milky white inside the envelope.
>
> Is this perhaps due to over heating or maybe I should phrase this as the
> convection cooling of these radios since they do NOT have fans.
>
> Ideas?  Comments?
>
> It has always been metered and watched with a scope for observing
> waveforms, and the wattmeter is the newer Model Bird with peak reading
> built-in.  (However true they really are!)
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>
>
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