After reading this thread, I figured it'd be worthwhile to set up a mediawiki instance to let people get familiar with it. I set one up last night on a node for my own enlightenment. The configuration is not "the best" by any means. For those interested in timeframe, it took thirty minutes to configure this instance from a clean arch linux installation. If you are interested in poking around in the environment to see what it feel like, go ahead, that's why I set it up. I disabled email registration, so anyone can just create an account and get a feel for creating pages / editing / preferences / etc... Tonight, i'm going to hack at creating my own skin, since it would just be cool :-) I added the amsat logo to the main page for testing, I hope this doesn't violate any copyright rules.... If it does, hollar and i'll remove it.
For the record, I have nothing to do with Amsat right now, outside of being a first time member this year. I also don't want anyone to think that i'm pushing for media wiki or anything of the sort. I just like the idea of having a wiki. I read the email thread and figured it'd be worthwhile to set an instance up so Amsat folk could get familiar with it. I have managed two other wiki systems on my own, trac / moinmoin. MediaWiki has quite a bit to offer and is reasonably easy to configure. Here's a link to the playground: http://71.43.22.149/ Let me know if you have any comments or questions (or if you get any weird behavior). Joseph Armbruster, KJ4JIO www.joevial.com On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Alan VE4YZ <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for your comments Tim. I'm accumulating some responses off-list in > addition to what y'all can read here. I don't want to go into solution > mode > at this early stage. Your concern is valid and worst case is that the > secure web e-commerce that AMSAT is now comfortable with would be linked to > from any new platform. > > > > _____ > > From: Tim - N3TL [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: September 8, 2009 7:01 PM > To: Alan VE4YZ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links > > > Alan and all, > > Here's my 2 cents' worth - coming from someone who admittedly knows very > little about the tools, skills and resources necessary to develop and > maintain a Web site. > > Alan, you write: "It must include RSS, news feeds, and a forum in addition > to all the stuff ( current or otherwise ) on the existing AMSAT site." > > How does the AMSAT store fit into this, and is it possible to "mix" a > wiki-style "access for all" site with one that will include areas for the > entry and transfer of secure, private information (e.g., credit card > information for purchases)? > > I ask this because I don't know of another major nonprofit that uses a > wiki-style site because of the need to incorporate an ecommerce site as > part > of the overall Web presence. > > My initial reaction to a Wiki approach is - no - for those reasons. > > I hope someone can provide more information here to me and everyone who > reads the BB that might help mitigate my concerns. I further hope someone > who is truly interested in mitigating the issues seemingly so many here > have > with the AMSAT Web site will attend the Board meeting in October to > continue > this kind of dialogue with the Board. > > 73 to all, > > Tim - N3TL > Athens, Ga. - EM84ha > > > _____ > > From: Alan VE4YZ <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 7:38:30 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links > > > IMHO fixing the existing site is not the answer. > > If the executives will okay the use of a Wiki format, I am sure that 3 or 4 > of us can communicate off list to set up a group to install and administer > a > Wiki on another server. > > We can call it The SIG ( Satellite Interest Group ) or whatever for now. > Any and All AMSAT members can then be registered to maintain the Wiki. If > the members and executive like the results it can be migrated to the AMSAT > server. It must include RSS, news feeds, and a forum in addition to all > the > stuff ( current or otherwise ) on the existing AMSAT site. > > The cost to this 3 or 4 person ( or more ) "steering committee" would be > the > registration of a name and a year on a web hosting service such as GoDaddy > what runs a similar server a AMSAT's host. Or, use the AMSAT hosting > company. So this small group would have to come up with less than one > year's AMSAT membership to start this project. > > We use an Open Source Wiki, no more customized PHP like the current site > that is high maintenance and really hard for anyone to get into the head of > any former code whacker to modify or update. > > We need the AMSAT exec okay because there would be a lot of cut 'n paste of > old stuff from the existing site into the pilot project where is would be > available for updating a la Wiki. > > I don't do this for a living, I do maintain a couple of club web sites, but > I bet we have a member reading this who is a professional web-whacker who > might oversee the team and keep us from making dumb decisions such as > choosing the wrong open source wiki to being with. > > That's my 2 cents and just one warm body being offered for the effort. > > 73, Alan VE4YZ > EN19kv > AMSAT LM 2352 > http://www.wincube.ca > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Andrew Glasbrenner <[email protected]> wrote: > > So who among you would like to volunteer to rewrite some of the articles > and > bring them up to date? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sent via [email protected]. 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