In the past I've dealt with ITAR for commercial products, talked to lawyers who 
were experts and written a document for guideing developers within the company 
that I worked for at the time. I read ITAR last year and "dealing with it" is 
not simple when foreign nationals and satellites are involved. AMSAT has an 
attorney that is advising them but they are not in the situation that I was 
where the foreign nationals were employees and customers and you could attempt 
to control them.

73,

John
KD6OZH 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rocky Jones 
  To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; 
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  Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 21:14 UTC
  Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Symposium News Posted to the Web


  John.  I was told by someone else that the problem was current use...but if 
ITAR is the problem, then it can be fixed.  ITAR is a pain but it can be "dealt 
with" particularly in this case...where there is no dual use capability.

  As for AMSAT's ARISSsat transponder.  Well we will see if it works.  They are 
not exactly burning up the track record with success.  We have had this 
argument and I am willing to sit back and see if it goes, but it is far to much 
project for the program.  Most of the folks I know at JSC give it less then 20 
percent chance of working...In fact it was a source of mirth at a recent BDAY 
party.

  Robert WB5MZO

  > From: [email protected]
  > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
  > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Symposium News Posted to the Web
  > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:06:13 +0000
  > 
  > AMSAT has a U/V linear transponder design in ARISSsat and according to the 
  > last newsletter no foreign national has signed the agreement that ITAR 
  > requires.
  > 
  > 73,
  > 
  > John
  > KD6OZH
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Rocky Jones" <[email protected]>
  > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "Amsat BB" 
  > <[email protected]>
  > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 15:58 UTC
  > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Symposium News Posted to the Web
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > http://www.qsl.net/pe1rah/HAMSAT.htm
  > 
  > I am just trying to figure out why AMSAT NA is not taking advantage of work 
  > already done.
  > 
  > Robert WB5MZO
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